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Old 11-10-2014, 10:20 PM   #241
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I don't know where the incident happened but weddings must have an officer present if alcohol is served

In Harris County?
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In Harris County?
Im not 100% sure but I want to say thats true. I work a lot of weddings at different venues as a bartender, and there is always an officer present.
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Old 11-11-2014, 01:34 AM   #243
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Like we dont realize we are impaired when we drive after drinking. Who needs to be told they are? If you are that stupid its best you dont drink at all. It a willful act. No product can replace judgement when judgement is needed to use product
YOU and the company you keep may realize YOUR OWN impairment/limitations AND how to behave accordingly... but you are giving FAR too much credit to the general public... they are (generally) exceedingly stupid, and have POOR judgement.

I've been left speechless on countless occasions, as I observe the public's need for constant supervision and direction. I realize those sound like "big government" kind of words (which I violently oppose), but its the (sad) truth.
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Being truth and needing to be done aren't the same. People are stupid. I get that. Sometimes you just have to let people be people and prosecute the idiots after the fact.
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Borders are wide open and stupid people seem to breed like crazy. It's only gonna get worse
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Being truth and needing to be done aren't the same. People are stupid. I get that. Sometimes you just have to let people be people and prosecute the idiots after the fact.
Unfettered freedom, regardless of the consequences?

("consequences" often being relatively minimal for the offender, and potentially devastating for the victims)
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Can we stick to the rights we have? Had. Not sure where unfettered was mentioned
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I wish we had the rights we used to.

Like you said, its just getting worse (stupidity and the subsequent laws to combat it)
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But it's like safety at work. All the safety rules in the world don't mean when you're stupid. People still get hurt and people still die. Why? They didn't follow the rules. You can't strip freedom in the name of safety. Stupid people
Are still going to up while the rest of us just lose rights we once had. In the end, who is really safer ?
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Old 11-11-2014, 07:18 AM   #251
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But it's like safety at work. All the safety rules in the world don't mean when you're stupid. People still get hurt and people still die. Why? They didn't follow the rules. You can't strip freedom in the name of safety. Stupid people
Are still going to up while the rest of us just lose rights we once had. In the end, who is really safer ?
I miss the days of open containers while driving without seatbelts
Now that was some freedom right there!
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Now that was some freedom right there!
I don't know if you are being sarcastic or not, but either way I agree with this statement
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As I stated it was a rehearsal dinner. Yes it was down on the island, and yes Texas does do DWI checkpoints on holidays. As I have said repeatedly I'm aware there is a market segment that will not embrace the idea. Its for people who are smart enough to know they can't trust themselves to make the best decisions when alcohol is involved. You can't give a product to someone who doesn't want it. Like wise there are several upscale places and hotels that are willing to pay to offer this option to their patrons and that's who I have to go to.
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As I stated it was a rehearsal dinner. Yes it was down on the island, and yes Texas does do DWI checkpoints on holidays. As I have said repeatedly I'm aware there is a market segment that will not embrace the idea. Its for people who are smart enough to know they can't trust themselves to make the best decisions when alcohol is involved. You can't give a product to someone who doesn't want it. Like wise there are several upscale places and hotels that are willing to pay to offer this option to their patrons and that's who I have to go to.
What happens when I lock my keys in your box and I am over the .035 limit you set for me (I have a Class A) so I can't get my keys but I really need my Coat out of my truck or my phone charger or something like that, medecine etc.
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In Texas. Its the law..
As in if it's liquor available on an open bar? I mean, if it's just beer and wine does an officer have to be present?

I'm genuinely curious because there was an open bar in Magnolia I went to last year but they only had wine and beer. There were no police officers on site.
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A "few" places doesn't get the bills paid though. Who's paying for R&D. I've looked into manufacturing an idea I had and there was not only R&D costs, but the manufacturer had a minimum order restriction that was way over how many I wanted.
Something just doesn't add up here. Either you're pitching this idea to us and have really done much on actually seeing what it's really going to take to do this or you have deep pockets and are just throwing money at an idea for "investment". Either way good luck with your freedom killer and I hope you don't lose too much money in your quest.
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What happens when I lock my keys in your box and I am over the .035 limit you set for me (I have a Class A) so I can't get my keys but I really need my Coat out of my truck or my phone charger or something like that, medecine etc.
Yeah, he really hasn't thought this thing through. Being that you have a class A, do you think you would swipe it into a machine before having a few drinks?
The other issue I'm having is the people he's trying to target. If this was on a volunteer basis and they actually went through with license swipe and locking the keys up, don't you think they'd already be the type that usually does the right thing. You know, the ones that make plans for such a thing before they leave the house?
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Interesting. Have a source? Not being argumentative, just never heard of that before. Been to a number of wedding at public and private venues and have never been to one with a cop.

Granted, my wedding was on our private property, but damned if anyone would have greenlit a cop being present.
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Yeah, he really hasn't thought this thing through. Being that you have a class A, do you think you would swipe it into a machine before having a few drinks?
The other issue I'm having is the people he's trying to target. If this was on a volunteer basis and they actually went through with license swipe and locking the keys up, don't you think they'd already be the type that usually does the right thing. You know, the ones that make plans for such a thing before they leave the house?
I just don't see how this could be a business, maybe a charity giving it to places to use is the idea?
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