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Old 11-06-2014, 12:05 PM   #1
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DISTRICT ATTORNEY ANNOUNCES NO-REFUSAL LONE STAR RALLY WEEKEND IN GALVESTON COUNTY

GALVESTON, TX – Criminal District Attorney Jack Roady announced today that his office will work with law enforcement agencies across the county to conduct a No-Refusal Program during the Lone Star Rally Weekend, from Friday, November 7th through Sunday, November 9th.
“Even though motorcycles account for only about 3 percent of registered vehicles on the road, motorcycle riders are dramatically overrepresented in fatal crashes involving alcohol. Last year’s Rally weekend drew hundreds of thousands of visitors to Galveston. With such a dramatic increase in traffic – motorcycle traffic, at that – it’s a critical time to increase our enforcement efforts and raise awareness about the dangers of drunk driving.”
In Texas, anyone driving with a blood alcohol concentration (BAC) of .08 grams per deciliter or higher is considered legally impaired. Under the No Refusal program, police officers may seek blood search warrants for offenders who are arrested for DWI and refuse the officer’s request for blood alcohol testing. Blood samples collected can be used as evidence in the DWI cases.
A DWI arrest and conviction in Texas can cost $17,000 or more: fees include car towing and impoundment, bail, attorney fees, court costs, hearing and fees to regain and retain a driver’s license, DWI fines, probation costs, fees for extended proof of insurance, plus insurance rate hikes.
Local judges will be available to make probable cause determinations and authorize the blood search warrants. Prosecutors and nurses will also work through the night to assist police officers with these investigations.
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let the taxing begin! Galveston has always been bloodthirsty to extract money any way they can from tourists (especially bikes) and even more so during the rally.
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So if the LEO has already made the arrest and charged a DWI then what is the point of the blood test?
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I don't.
As I understand it (and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong), they have to have reason to believe that you are intoxicated in order to ask you to submit to a field test. If you refuse, they don't have to get a warrant to take your blood. As far as I'm concerned, the only people that this punishes are the ones that are driving drunk... If you are not drunk, you have no reason to be stopped by police. Even if you are stopped, you have no reason not to just do a breathalyzer.

I'm not trying to be rude, but what is the problem? I'm just interested in why people would oppose this unless they thought they would be getting wasted at LSR and riding home.
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So if the LEO has already made the arrest and charged a DWI then what is the point of the blood test?
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As I understand it (and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong), they have to have reason to believe that you are intoxicated in order to ask you to submit to a field test. If you refuse, they don't have to get a warrant to take your blood. As far as I'm concerned, the only people that this punishes are the ones that are driving drunk... If you are not drunk, you have no reason to be stopped by police. Even if you are stopped, you have no reason not to just do a breathalyzer.

I'm not trying to be rude, but what is the problem? I'm just interested in why people would oppose this unless they thought they would be getting wasted at LSR and riding home.

If that's the case then why do they need to have "special weekends" to do it? It just seems like its kind of saying "you normally have the right but we're gonna ignore it this weekend".

I'm not saying if its right or not. I'm just saying if its ok to do it certain weekends then what makes it not right to do it all the time?
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If that's the case then why do they need to have "special weekends" to do it? It just seems like its kind of saying "you normally have the right but we're gonna ignore it this weekend".

I'm not saying if its right or not. I'm just saying if its ok to do it certain weekends then what makes it not right to do it all the time?
I would support it working this way all of the time. It does seem strange that they only do it on certain weekends. If they thought it was an acceptable practice, why not push to make it permanent?
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If that's the case then why do they need to have "special weekends" to do it? It just seems like its kind of saying "you normally have the right but we're gonna ignore it this weekend".

I'm not saying if its right or not. I'm just saying if its ok to do it certain weekends then what makes it not right to do it all the time?
No-refusal requires judges , prosecutors, and nurses be on duty overnight. They're not going to do that 24/7 for a variety of reasons
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As I understand it (and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong), they have to have reason to believe that you are intoxicated in order to ask you to submit to a field test. If you refuse, they don't have to get a warrant to take your blood. As far as I'm concerned, the only people that this punishes are the ones that are driving drunk... If you are not drunk, you have no reason to be stopped by police. Even if you are stopped, you have no reason not to just do a breathalyzer.

I'm not trying to be rude, but what is the problem? I'm just interested in why people would oppose this unless they thought they would be getting wasted at LSR and riding home.
I'm "one of those people" who would like to have less government interaction.
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I'm "one of those people" who would like to have less government interaction.
Do you think that people should be allowed to drink and drive? Assuming you are a reasonable human being and the answer to that question is no, how do you think we should detect violators if not for government interaction? Again, just curious here.
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No-refusal requires judges , prosecutors, and nurses be on duty overnight. They're not going to do that 24/7 for a variety of reasons

I guess that tells us what is more important. Getting drunks off the streets or having those three professions work more than first shift.
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let the taxing begin! Galveston has always been bloodthirsty to extract money any way they can from tourists (especially bikes) and even more so during the rally.
Drunk driving is a voluntary tax. Don't want to participate, don't drink and drive, really pretty simple.
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I guess that tells us what is more important. Getting drunks off the streets or having those three professions work more than first shift.
I'm sure you can get arrested for DWI 24/7, no-refusal or not
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