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Old 11-05-2014, 03:58 PM   #1
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New Rider - 600cc or < 600cc?

Hello all. I'm Andre, new to motohouston and new to motorcycles in general. Taking my endorsement course next weekend and planning on making the first bike purchase soon after. The question: what size do I go with? I've read plenty of articles saying beginners need to stay under 600cc, and I've read the counterparts that say 600cc is perfect for beginners. I'm currently looking at the following:

Kawasaki Ninja 500R
Honda CBR500R
Yamaha FZ6R
Yamaha FZ07

And I'm open to any other suggestions that fit into my interests based off the above list. Looking for a good, reliable sport bike (no crotch rockets) that is preferably under $5,000.

What's your opinion...less than 600cc or 600cc and up? (I weigh 158lbs)
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Old 11-05-2014, 04:28 PM   #2
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The Honda CBR500R and CB500F are good beginner bikes. I have a CB500F for commuting. I also own a CBR1000RR that I ride only on weekends.

The the CB500F is the naked version of the CBR500R. They're light and easy to maneuver. It's a fun bike with enough power to cruise on the freeways. The 500F has an upright riding position while the 500R is a little more aggressive.
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Old 11-05-2014, 04:40 PM   #3
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My Ninja 300 is plenty fast for me as a beginner. You can get a new one for cheap if that interests you. They have some nice features like ABS (optional), slipper clutch, fuel injection (unlike the 250s), etc.
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Old 11-05-2014, 05:03 PM   #4
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Yamaha fz07 is such a sexy bike! Ive been really thinking about picking one up
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Old 11-05-2014, 05:18 PM   #5
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Stay clear of supersport4 cylinder bikes until you have a few thoussnd miles under your belt.

Pick up cheap 250/300/500 and ride it till spring, then sell it for what you paid and move up to what you really want.

No offense intended, but if you have to ask us, you obviously don't have the info/experience to make a good decision. Start small, and don't worry about sexy bike. You will likely own many bikes in your life, no reson to lose grand or more on your first. You may find out that supersport ergo don't work well with you- I only ride min t the trck. My upright sport/touring bikes have more street friendly torque nd are comfortable all dy
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Old 11-05-2014, 05:37 PM   #6
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Just get a 600 and take it easy at first. My first bike was a gsxr750 and I am still alive. I have help 2 girls get 600cc sport bikes and helped then learn to ride on them. A small bike is great but limited. I ride an SV650 on the street though so maybe I really don't know what I am talking about.
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I have a SV650 for sale... Perfect beginner bike.

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Old 11-05-2014, 06:06 PM   #8
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The Sv650 i think would be a great starter bike. Not too much power, but enough to get you in trouble.

600cc have a certain persuasive technique that your curious will fall for. You see a very high red line, and you know this bike can do 160+mph, this is very enticing for a new rider. This is when things can go south fast. You can say you wont speed on it, but within the first week of riding it you will think you have the bike mastered. You will open her up, and o look a corner. You try to slow down apply to much brake, and now your sliding.

We all have know a guy who started on a 1k or a busa and there still alive. You see girls starting off on 600 so why cant you? You can read, talk, and watch about what bikes the best bike to start, but its really up to you to decide what you think you can handle. This is your first bike not your last.

Also when it comes to price i would look more under the 4k range. Lots of great bikes with low miles. Its pointless to buy a brand new bike just to drop it. Use the rest of the money to buy gear.

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Talk with your instructor after the class is over, he can give you great advice seeing that he's seen you ride.

That being said, every one of the bikes you listed would make a great starter bike and would "last" you for some time to come. You may even want to keep one of these in your garage and just get a different bike down the road when you are ready. The 500r isn't the most appealing to the eyes, but its bullet proof and hasn't changed much because of that. I've had one, and enjoyed it for years.
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Thanks for the advice everyone. I appreciate it. I'm looking into the Suzuki SV650 for now and hoping my mind doesn't change after going through the course.
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As others have pointed out, some of the advantages of buying a used bike is the lower initial cost, likely lower insurance, and (hopefully) lower cost (or depreciation) if and/or when you drop it.

On the other hand, one advantage a new(er) bike like the FZ-07 will have over an SV650 is going to be a factory warranty. If you're unfamiliar with bikes and don't plan on doing your own work, this could be important. Some of the newer bikes will also be available with ABS.
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Old 11-07-2014, 01:13 PM   #12
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These guys have covered it.

Only thing I'll add is to remember to factor in the cost of DECENT gear into your budget.
(Helmet, jacket, gloves, boots)

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Old 11-07-2014, 02:50 PM   #13
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I started on a 2013 ninja 650 abs off the show room floor because I didn't want to worry about the mechanical end while I was learning. As of the end of October 2014, mind you September 2013- October 2014 was my first year riding, I put 13,569 miles on the bike.... I was feeling the limits on the straightaways of the 650 (it was fine in the cornering speeds) so I upgraded to a 2014 ZX-10R ABS. I also wear full leathers 95%+ of the time now because I don't want to experience of the feeling of my skin being sanded off by cement and the ensuing medical bills... And I'm nothing special so if I can start on a 649cc bike, surely anyone can.

Come to think of it I think the first 600 miles or so I spent in a square riding around my low volume traffic neighbor hood.
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A 650 twin and a 600cc Inline four are not quite the same. A 600cc i4 is going to a fair bit more powerful generally speaking.

There is nothing wrong with a 300cc to 500cc bike for a beginner. To be honest you will have more fun on the 300 because of all the shifting required and being able to go wide full throttle just about all the time. They're lighter easier to steer and quick to stand up if things go wrong. You will find most of the newb and moderate rides here won't need the straight away power, and you can run or even out run guys on big bikes through the curves which are the fun parts anyway!
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I started off with a Ninja 650, I believe this is a perfect Bike for me because after I got comfortable with the roads, majority of my commute consists of the freeway, which the 650 is perfect for! At the sand time the 650 isn't a super sport, so makes a great beginner bike! I would definitely recommend a ninja 650, just not a brand new one, because you'll end up dropping it!
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Welcome. I think 600 is a good way to start. As long as it's not a bullet bikes

Something up-right, easy to handle and you will be fine.

A friend of mine selling a 2004 FZ06 for around $2000 or less...he willing to negotiate and need to sell quick. PM me if you want more info.
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Originally Posted by powelldre View Post
Thanks for the advice everyone. I appreciate it. I'm looking into the Suzuki SV650 for now and hoping my mind doesn't change after going through the course.
So what did you end up getting?

All of the bikes in your OP are good to start on. I would also include the Ninja 650 as a good intro as well. Nice low end grunt.
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Old 12-10-2014, 05:32 PM   #18
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Thanks for all the advice and offers, everyone! I ended up with a Yamaha FZ-07. A bit different from the OP list of bikes, but all in all I love it and it's a sweet bike. Did a 200+ mile ride with my dad (2013 Yamaha FJR) over Thanksgiving and it was great. Looking forward to breaking it in.
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Welcome to MH, nice assortments of bikes!
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