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Old 05-24-2007, 04:21 PM   #1
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Stiff arms? Flap your wings!

I see sportbike riders every day and the one thing I notice is that most riders' arms are stiff as a board. The other day, this guy turned in front of me and I don't think his arms could've been any straighter than they were.

When I started out riding, several folks reminded me to keep my arms lose and relaxed and to keep checking for tension by 'flapping my wings'. Even on my first trackday, I kept being reminded to relax 'more!'. On every ride, I now check every so often so make sure I am not putting any weight on my wrists and flap my wings briefly. Granted, it turned into one of my petpeeves, so naturally, I notice it immediately on other riders and see it a LOT.

I don't remember if they teach it in MSF? Probably not or why do so many people ride stiff armed?
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They ride stiff armed because they don't know how to use their legs and abs to control the bike.
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in my MSF course they told the students to losen up and not be so stiff...
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Describe the offender!

I commute through your neck of the woods, but I don't think I ride stiff-armed!
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Also, being a new and nervous rider does not help. Unfortunately those stiff arms will get them into more trouble.
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I occasionally get a numb wrist after a few miles on the road. Then I loosen up and flex the arm and get feeling back in the wrist.. What am I doing wrong?
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I occasionally get a numb wrist after a few miles on the road. Then I loosen up and flex the arm and get feeling back in the wrist.. What am I doing wrong?

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I occasionally get a numb wrist after a few miles on the road. Then I loosen up and flex the arm and get feeling back in the wrist.. What am I doing wrong?
Grip the tank with your legs and use your abs to hold yourself up instead of your arms and wrists. You will have to mentally focus on this at first until you develop the habit and muscle memory.
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Also, being a new and nervous rider does not help. Unfortunately those stiff arms will get them into more trouble.
I remember when I found out how much it helps to hug the bike with your knees (and heels sometimes) I kept wondering if some of the people I had talked to were riding correctly, how did their wrists and back hurt so bad? Then I realized quite plain and simply, they weren't riding correctly at all. Abs and legs are your best friends on a sportbike!
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Describe the offender!

I commute through your neck of the woods, but I don't think I ride stiff-armed!
I see too many to describe one or two. Most of the time, they ride in T-Shirts, and some have a helmet.

Saw a guy the other day on a red bike (too far away to see what kind) with a leather jacket, helmet tied to the back of the bike, he was riding in front of me, and turned straight armed away.
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I remember when I found out how much it helps to hug the bike with your knees (and heels sometimes) I kept wondering if some of the people I had talked to were riding correctly, how did their wrists and back hurt so bad? Then I realized quite plain and simply, they weren't riding correctly at all. Abs and legs are your best friends on a sportbike!
I always imagine my bike is my horse and squeeze with the knees and hold my upper torso up with my stomach. I think it is a good habit. Maybe we should give some of these folks some horse riding lessons. They can't lean forward and put weight on any bars.
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I always imagine my bike is my horse and squeeze with the knees and hold my upper torso up with my stomach. I think it is a good habit. Maybe we should give some of these folks some horse riding lessons. They can't lean forward and put weight on any bars.
My lady is trying to get me to ride on of those beasts. They scare me!
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My lady is trying to get me to ride on of those beasts. They scare me!


They only go max 35mph. :icon_bigg
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Grip the tank with your legs and use your abs to hold yourself up instead of your arms and wrists. You will have to mentally focus on this at first until you develop the habit and muscle memory.


+1 ^^^^^ what he said ^^^^^^
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They only go max 35mph. :icon_bigg
i am not to scared of speed... it is the fact that they are a huge extremely strong animal :eh:
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I see too many to describe one or two. Most of the time, they ride in T-Shirts, and some have a helmet.

Saw a guy the other day on a red bike (too far away to see what kind) with a leather jacket, helmet tied to the back of the bike, he was riding in front of me, and turned straight armed away.

Not good.

One must always wear proper gear!
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Hahaha. I used to "flap my wings" when I first started getting away from riding stiff armed. I still flap them occasionally when I think I'm too stiff on the bike. I feel like a goofball when I do it but it helps. :laughing6
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YOU HOLDING THE BARS TO HARD HAS TO BE GENTLE TO LET THE BLOOD CIRCULATE
Thanks jimmy.
I grip the tank with my legs and have pretty good control and keep loose arms. I think I do sometimes get a death grip but riding thru HTowns traffic all the time will do that to you
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