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Old 10-29-2014, 09:15 AM   #1
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My take on lane splitting and malicious cagers. Do you guys risk it in Houston?

I lane split every single day I take my bike to work at some point. It saves me time getting to and from work. I do my best to do it as safe as possible. Usually only at speeds below 30 mph or so in traffic. Without this every single day I would be spending 20-40 more minutes in traffic every single day. I know this because I usually take the car usually once a week for one reason or another To me it is worth the risk.

My big complaint is that doing this everyday, I generally have at least one person try to stop me from splitting because they are mad I'm getting ahead of them. I've had several people swerve as they see me coming to block my attempts to get through. I've had several people look directly at me and then make pretend swerves. I've had several people try to pin me between another car, actually one time a guy in a civic tried to pin me into another car, I braked quickly, and he tapped the suv that was in the other lane with his side mirror. No idea what happened as I got over another lane and took off. The worst way to respond in any of those events would be to get mad and let it impact your judgement or reaction. I will say that now I am prepared for such situations and watch for them but I don't advise lane splitting to anyone in Houston anyways.

If someone chooses to kill me because I am getting ahead of them in traffic, I just hope they are caught because that means they did it in traffic and won't get away, and that they will rot in prison for manslaughter. I do what I can to protect myself by staying at a low enough speed to react quickly to people trying to change lanes that don't see me approaching(this is more common but I take a strategy to splitting...I never try to pass someone that doesn't have a car directly next to them in case they want to get over because there is no real way to see me coming), 2 fingers over the front break, and being fully alert and watching peoples tires for any movement in direction.

I also started recording every commute with my gopro, in the event that I pass I at least want some record of how, so if it was my error someone can learn from the video or if it's from a deliberate attempt to harm me it can serve as evidence.

Ride safe guys, I know in the back of my mind the 20-40 minutes a day isn't worth giving up 50 years, but at the same time you never think it will happen to you.
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Old 10-29-2014, 09:20 AM   #2
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out no one can chase me through traffix
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Old 10-29-2014, 09:20 AM   #3
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Would really like to see some of your footage. You should make a compilation,...
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That's a good idea actually
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Old 10-29-2014, 09:24 AM   #5
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Would really like to see some of your footage. You should make a compilation,...
I have been deleting the videos for space but was thinking about starting up daily videos on youtube of my commute with highlights of some of the stuff I see on a daily basis. My only problem is I listen to music inside my helmet and am kind of weirded out by talking to myself in my helmet to try to actually moto vlog or whatever lol.
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I have been deleting the videos for space but was thinking about starting up daily videos on youtube of my commute with highlights of some of the stuff I see on a daily basis. My only problem is I listen to music inside my helmet and am kind of weirded out by talking to myself in my helmet to try to actually moto vlog or whatever lol.
You can let the video speak for itself without commmentary
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of course but then I doubt anyone would watch XD I've never seen a popular motovlogger that didn't ever talk lol
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Just add the music from your headphones as the soundtrack, that way your viewers can get a feel for your mindset while land splitting. If you ever are killed, as you obviously fear you may be, do you worry that your footage will show that you were not riding in compliance with local law, potentially lessening the punishment for whoever kills you?
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of course but then I doubt anyone would watch XD I've never seen a popular motovlogger that didn't ever talk lol
I would just post highlights of off motorists
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Just add the music from your headphones as the soundtrack, that way your viewers can get a feel for your mindset while land splitting. If you ever are killed, as you obviously fear you may be, do you worry that your footage will show that you were not riding in compliance with local law, potentially lessening the punishment for whoever kills you?
I don't think someone just changing lanes or something like that deserves to be punished if for example I was being an asshat shooting by them at 80mph when they so happened to be changing lanes or something. I think if the video showed proof of them doing something like purposefully swerving into me or something of that nature they would still get charged with some form of manslaughter. Just because someone is breaking a law(depending how you classify lane splitting which texas does not have a law against other than the fact that it says you must try when possible to keep your entire vehicle inside 1 lane so riding on the stripes with the vehicle overhanging in both lanes would be against the law) doesn't give you the right to try to cause them harm.

For example, If someone in a car is going 80 mph in a 60 you can't just slam into them with your car to try to get them to slow down.
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+1 I'm in for the off motorist complilation.
I can see where people are getting , but trying to hurt/kill someone because you are pitching a fit over being stuck in traffic is pathetic and they should absolutely be charged with vehicular manslaughter for intentionally hitting a motorcyclist.
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I don't think someone just changing lanes or something like that deserves to be punished if for example I was being an asshat shooting by them at 80mph when they so happened to be changing lanes or something. I think if the video showed proof of them doing something like purposefully swerving into me or something of that nature they would still get charged with some form of manslaughter. Just because someone is breaking a law(depending how you classify lane splitting which texas does not have a law against other than the fact that it says you must try when possible to keep your entire vehicle inside 1 lane so riding on the stripes with the vehicle overhanging in both lanes would be against the law) doesn't give you the right to try to cause them harm.

For example, If someone in a car is going 80 mph in a 60 you can't just slam into them with your car to try to get them to slow down.
Agreed, I don't mess with lane splitters and those that do cause them intentional harm should be held accountable. I was just curious if the thought had crossed your mind. Guilt vs innocence in this country often boils down to the quality of your legal council. . .or your legal council's relationship with the circuit judge.
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you should keep a small bat or pipe an tap they're car as they try and swerve at you
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I've started splitting more and more on 59 during my commute, and have started passing non-moving traffic on the HOV as well. Sometime (week before last) on the way home one afternoon all traffic stopped due to a stalled bus. The very next morning, traffic stopped due to a 3 car pile-up in the HOV, and after passing that I passed 3 more accidents/stalled vehicles in the HOV. After dealing with those, any time traffic slows below 10 mph I just keep going at 10 mph to the right of slowing cars, so long as there's room and just pop back into line if/when the line is moving again.

This morning on 59 (before the HOV splits off) I had a "gentleman" driving solo, illegally in the HOV, try to block me from splitting lanes along the double white stripe. Easy enough to pull behind him, move to the other side of the lane and go around on the shoulder side. He didn't seem to appreciate me avoiding his block. I didn't appreciate him being in the HOV illegally.

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As appealing as this sounds to my emotional side, I can't see this possibly being a good idea.
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Just push on their side mirror so they have to re-adjust it. Bonus points if it's folding so they have to roll the window down or get out to fix it. No need to resort to violence when this kind of thing happens all the time. All you'll succeed in doing is getting yourself hurt, killed, or arrested.
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I used to lane split all the time when I lived in SoCal in the 80s, and it was wonderful. I used the same strategy as you've described in the OP.

I don't split in Houston, and don't plan on doing so until (if ever) it becomes legal. I don't face a long commute every day, so it's just not worth it. My house is 2-3 miles from the office.

But I'm happy to assist with any efforts to get a new sponsor for a lane splitting bill.
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Most know how I feel

I love it when the stupid car gets really far over to block my line, then I just go around him on the other side

One guy did try the door bullshit, but he didn't say one word when I shut it for him.

I also run the gopro all the time. Once I wasn't running it and this stupid plowed over a median at about 50mph in a little car. It blew out all four tires. Wish I had captured that. The look on her face was priceless when she got out of the car. I was at a stop on the sholder getting my jacket liner on.

http://www.motohouston.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=239504

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lol i thought it was funny.ive lane split a few an so has my brother but hes had people try an block him a few times.he had one guy try an pin him in he just stopped went around the guy then flipped him off as he was driving away
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