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Old 10-23-2014, 12:07 PM   #1
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UC Berkeley study 10/14 on Lane splitting

did a quick search on lane splitting and didnt see anything this current. Looks like another, albeit brief, article about lane splitting dangers.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...022-story.html
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Old 10-23-2014, 12:46 PM   #2
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well, I'll be damned.

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The study, which reviewed thousands of accident reports from around the state, found that lane-splitting is no more dangerous than riding a motorcycle in a marked lane.

So lane-splitting is generally safe as long as itís done at a reasonable speed.
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Old 10-23-2014, 01:24 PM   #3
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They forgot to add "and no idiots are trying to run you off the road"...although that is also usually no less safe than riding in a marked lane do to epic failure on the drivers part.
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Old 10-23-2014, 01:45 PM   #4
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That's the one thing that state has done right (as compared to any of the other 49). I really wish we could get something going in Texas.

I did find this funny:
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The study did show that lane-splitters who ride at speeds 10 mph faster than the traffic they are passing do stand a greater risk of being in an accident. Researchers also found that lane-splitters are more likely to rear-end another vehicle than vice versa. Moreover, the data showed that the chances of lane-splitters getting into accidents is greatest in the early morning and late afternoon — rush hour.
So...
1) If you go TOO much faster than traffic, it becomes more dangerous. This is a well-established principle. See the Solomon Curve.

2) If you're moving faster than traffic, you're more likely to rear-end someone than be rear-ended yourself. This seems obvious.

3)Periods with heaviest traffic have the most collisions. Again, pretty obvious.

I don't think there's anything ground breaking about this study, but I do like that they point out that it's no more dangerous than riding in a marked lane. Of course, of the people who oppose lane splitting on the grounds that it's dangerous, most probably wouldn't mind outlawing riding motorcycles in general due to the inherent danger.

All I know is that twice in the last week, "splitting" has saved me at least 4 or 5 hours in commute time (over two days) as I've been able to go around a disabled bus or multiple vehicle collision on the HOV. If I could do it on the main lanes, I wouldn't need to be in the HOV.
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Of course, of the people who oppose lane splitting on the grounds that it's dangerous, most probably wouldn't mind outlawing riding motorcycles in general due to the inherent danger.
I doubt anyone is genuinely opposed to it because they think it's unsafe...provided it wasn't after someone just flew by them at a speed 4-5 times greater than theirs.
They see someone splitting in a reasonable manner and like a child, that them off because they have to sit in traffic and you don't... It's not FAIR most of these people don't have the emotional intelligence to recognize why they are even , so they grab at the most adult excuse they can think of and mumble something like "that idiot's going to get himself killed" in a last ditch effort to not sound like a child.

splitting/HOV cuts my commute time in half and as the population grows and our government continues to fail at managing the flow of traffic, more and more people are going to turn to splitting.
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I doubt anyone is genuinely opposed to it because they think it's unsafe...provided it wasn't after someone just flew by them at a speed 4-5 times greater than theirs.
They see someone splitting in a reasonable manner and like a child, that them off because they have to sit in traffic and you don't... It's not FAIR most of these people don't have the emotional intelligence to recognize why they are even , so they grab at the most adult excuse they can think of and mumble something like "that idiot's going to get himself killed" in a last ditch effort to not sound like a child.

splitting/HOV cuts my commute time in half and as the population grows and our government continues to fail at managing the flow of traffic, more and more people are going to turn to splitting.
No, most of the non-riders I have discussed it with honestly believe that riding between lanes of stopped cars at 10 mph is as dangerous as riding wheelies on the freeway. When I ask them to explain their reasoning and then point out logical errors they usually start to agree with me that it probably isn't as bad as they thought. Most people don't give an honest thought to the issue, they just see someone going when they are not and assume that it's dangerous and that person should have to stop. You're right though, calling it dangerous is just a lazy excuse for selfishness.
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You're right though, calling it dangerous is just a lazy excuse for selfishness.
Right, that's all I am trying to say is that they haven't even put enough thought into it/been honest with themselves enough to realize that the real reason they are opposed to it has nothing to do with safety.
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I've been in LA last few months, and let me tell you if lane splitting 5-10mph faster them the cars around you - it is extremely safe and easy. I still cover both brakes but notice most drivers moving/angling their cars away to make room.

We should bring that law here too!
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I've been in LA last few months, and let me tell you if lane splitting 5-10mph faster them the cars around you - it is extremely safe and easy. I still cover both brakes but notice most drivers moving/angling their cars away to make room.

We should bring that law here too!

Try do it in most European countries too, and in a lot of cases those countries are a lot more safety oriented than the US.

The only way we will get that in Texas is if enough motorcyclist persistently contact their state legislators and demand it.
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Old 10-25-2014, 08:19 PM   #11
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Most of us would rather be in control of our own safety rather than hope a driver behind us fails to look up.

When cars are going slow it takes them a while to change lanes which is probably the biggest danger when splitting.
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