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Old 05-23-2007, 09:46 AM   #1
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I ordered some Vance and Hines Short Shots this week for my 03 LowRider. Anyone else have these pipes?

Called V&H yesterday and was a little dissapointed when they told me the baffles are welded to the caps. So I either cut them out or remove them and lose the caps. They also tell that removeing the baffles will take away and performance gain the pipes would give so I really hope they have the sound i'm looking for with the baffles in place. I figure i'm already going to lose some torqe by adding short staright pipes. Good news is they tell me I shouldnt have to rejet the carb because I already have the stage 2 carb kit and air system.

I looked at a lot of pipes and went with what I thought looked best. I know V&H pipes have good sound and figured I could get extra rumble by removing the baffles if I wanted to. I can always add other upgrades to make up for any lost power. 2 - 1 pipes just dont look that good to me although from what I hear they are the best performing. Money played a small role in the decision as the short shots cost about 1/2 of the other exhaust i was looking at. Found the short shots (non-stagg) on e-bay for for $260. If I dont like them and go with some big shot shorts or radius at least it wont hurt as bad.

What kind of pipes do you guys/gals roll with?
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Old 05-23-2007, 10:10 AM   #2
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You will like them. My good friend has a heritage with V&H long shots. They are loud as !

I had the SEII's on mine, but now i have a Drag Specialties Python 2-1. Huge difference in power, but the harley sound is gone. It now sounds like a V8 mustang.
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Old 05-23-2007, 10:13 AM   #3
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I have Hard Krome 2.5" American Classic Straights on my Warrior. I had some Mortons Executioners on it, those were loud and hot, they were pretty much just headers, no heat shields or baffles. The Hard Krome's did tune the sound down but it still has a rumble.
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Old 05-23-2007, 11:32 AM   #4
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Old 05-23-2007, 11:38 AM   #5
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Cool .. i'll post pictures here and a video on utube when its all said and done. I'm more exited about adding the Kurykan forward controls then anything else.

Next upgrade will be a solo seat, 1/2 apes, chrome out all hand controls and add braided lines, detachable pilon and detachable saddle bags for the long trips with the wifey.
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Old 05-23-2007, 11:47 AM   #6
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I think those are the same pipes hubby had on his custom Fatboy -- loved the sound. I had some V&H pipes on my 750, but couldn't tell you what they were. We recently put Hooker Headers on the Ultra -- man oh man, those are some awesome sounding pipes for our cruizer.

One thing to keep in mind about taking out the baffles is the sound factor. In Louisiana, they pull bikes over right and left just to check to see if you have the baffles in your pipes. If you don't, it's an automatic $200+ fine right then and there. While I don't know how far and where you travel on your Harley, remember there are small towns around the country that have noise laws, which could get you in trouble if you don't have the baffles in.
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Old 05-27-2007, 03:14 PM   #7
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We put v@h long shots I think on the c-50. They have tips that are supposed to slide in. They didn't slide in long story. The dealer called v@h they basically said to get $#@%ed. There c.s. sucks. I wouldn't purchase another thing from v@h. I hope you have better luck.
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I've had pretty good luck with V&H. I purchased a used set of pipes that were missing a couple of connecting items. The V&H rep sent them to me for free. That was nice. Now later on, I ended up needing a couple more items and had to pay for them and found some of their item prices to be a little high.

Sorry you had a bad run-in. I've actually had more luck talking to their tech department than their customer service/sales reps. But then again I also didn't have a problem as serious as yours. They may not have liked hearing about a possible manufacturing flaw and decided to be d*cks.
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i have the V&H Longshots, they actually came with removable baffles but the bike is loud enough already and i just kept them in.
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Old 05-29-2007, 01:24 PM   #10
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Well i got the short shots on yesterday and I couldnt be more pleased. I took a video and will put it on you-tube tonight. The pipes sound awesome! Its really exactly what I wanted. They look awesome, not to loud but louder then my stock pipes without baffles. I left the baffles in the short shots. They are super easy to take out but you lose the tips by taking them out because the baffles are actually welded to the tips. I didnt use exhaust gaskets because when i removed the stock pipes there were no gaskits there and with the gaskits the pipes had a hard time fitting to the cylinders.

Long story short .. i love the pipes. So far I havent had to retune my carb. No missing and no backfiring .. i filled up this morning and if my milage is ok i'll leave the carb alone. If my milage goes on a steep decline i'll have to tune or re-jet.

Total cost: under $300
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Perhaps there were exhuast gaskets already in there and you just didn't notice. I had to use needle nose plyers to get mine out when i changed my pipes. That could be what happened since the pipes wouldn't fit when you stuck on the other gaskets. Either way, they say that you can use the old gaskets. it doesn't hurt it unless the new pipes are shaped funny.

I'm glad you got set up!
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Old 05-31-2007, 01:16 PM   #12
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My bro had a vance and hines exhaust system on his zx7 it sounded mean sweet exhaust system you will love it.
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