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View Poll Results: Should safety wiring be required at track days
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Old 10-21-2014, 12:09 AM   #1
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Should safety wiring oil plug/filter be required at track days?

Yes? No? Why or why not?
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Old 10-21-2014, 12:35 AM   #2
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Yes? No? Why or why not?
It wouldn't hurt to do it, but it would require regular riders to drill stuff. Loctight or silicone works better imo. Proper torq is a pluse also.
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I've been at two track days where people lost oil from the filter or drain plug. You can get pre drilled drain plugs for a decent price. I say make it required the only annoying part is checking to make sure they are safety wired.
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well the bike has to pass tech inspection anyway

I guess my issue is, the wire dosn't keep the plug or filter form backing off does it?
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the wire dosn't keep the plug or filter form backing off does it?

Yes it does.
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well the bike has to pass tech inspection anyway

I guess my issue is, the wire dosn't keep the plug or filter form backing off does it?
Normal tech inspection can't usually see the oil drain and filter. You would have to do CMRA style tech inspections and have the belly pan off the bike to make sure everything is safety wired.
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I guess my issue is, the wire dosn't keep the plug or filter form backing off does it?

If it doesn't, what's the point of safety wire?
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I wouldn't mind it being a requirement for all level 3, more experienced riders shouldn't have a issue. Another thing thats a good thing to have are those engine case savers, I have nrc and they are crazy good. Ive also seen the yoshi, woodcraft, etc do great jobs as well.


For level 1, itd be nice but I dont think itd happen.
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Old 10-21-2014, 01:08 PM   #9
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Why make it harder to do a track day?
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I'll answer your question with another, why make track days safer?

Level 3 guys are probably already safety wiring all the important bits and are cmra racers. The problem I think is level 1 and 2 riders although level 3 can't be exempt. I think it's a good idea.
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Why make it harder to do a track day?
This is true.

But it sucks when some one crashes and spills oil everywhere on a slow low side or something. Im in for making all level 3 or equvilant track day levels to require case covers. If you're running advanced you will probably race and its a requirement anyway.
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well the bike has to pass tech inspection anyway

I guess my issue is, the wire dosn't keep the plug or filter form backing off does it?
That's the point and the reason why we have to safety wire the entire bike. Not just for the sake of an accident. Vibration is the reason #1 why so many peeps keep losing nuts and bolts and the track. Maintenance is a but it's a must. I also use lock-tight in many places as well.
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This is true.

But it sucks when some one crashes and spills oil everywhere on a slow low side or something. Im in for making all level 3 or equvilant track day levels to require case covers. If you're running advanced you will probably race and its a requirement anyway.
Like it happened in COTA last year? Yeah that was a bummer. Even though it was on the last session but when you are paying all that money you want to get all you can... Just saying...
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Yes it does.
oh, sounds like a good idea then

however, most of the lost track time due to oil on the track/cleanup was from folks crashing
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IMO it a good Idea. If it saves just one person from serious injury it is worth it in my book. I mean a new guy in level 1 not to keen on maintenance accidentally spills oil on the track caused by this issue and a unknowing rider comes right behind him and crashes is a very realistic possibility. These would be the most inexperienced riders to handle a bad situation such as this and not looking ahead to avoid it.

I would say for the most part riders that come out to the track end up coming back more than once. So these mod only need to be done once and they are done. It's not a repeat process.
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oh, sounds like a good idea then

however, most of the lost track time due to oil on the track/cleanup was from folks crashing
Yup, and thats why case covers should also be required for track days. In level 3/ advanced at least.
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We wish it was required. Too hard for newbie track riders and too hard to tech
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Yup, and thats why case covers should also be required for track days. In level 3/ advanced at least.
Everyone should buy case covers track rider or not. At the very least loosing oil is a possibility however further engine damage can result from broken cases and impact without aids like frame sliders.

Honestly I don't see why Manufactures don't make this a stock item.

Cost blah blah blah I would rather invest in quality.
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Everyone should buy case covers track rider or not. At the very least loosing oil is a possibility however further engine damage can result from broken cases and impact without aids like frame sliders.

Honestly I don't see why Manufactures don't make this a stock item.

Cost blah blah blah I would rather invest in quality.
Ill never put frame sliders on a bike lol. Case covers 100%
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Ill never put frame sliders on a bike lol. Case covers 100%
I only say sliders because I actually destroyed a engine loosing the front end one time without them. End result was upon impact the case gave way and hit the snout of the crank and bent it.

Not saying the sliders would have prevented it but it could have helped. It also could have made things worse.
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