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Old 05-23-2007, 08:05 AM   #1
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Whatcha think about the Cannon EOS D30?
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I'm a Nikon guy but the reviews I've seen look good. Here's one that I found interesting (Keep in mind the reviewer is mostly a landscape photographer) http://www.kenrockwell.com/canon/30d.htm

I recently bought the Nikon D200 which is somewhat similar.

Do you already have Canon lenses you will be using with the camera? If not, keep in mind that the glass will be a big part of your budget, depending upon what you will be doing with it.
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Do you already have Canon lenses you will be using with the camera? If not, keep in mind that the glass will be a big part of your budget, depending upon what you will be doing with it.
Yep, lenses are crazy expensive.

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I'm looking at the Cannon EOS-30D that comes with 28-135 IS AF Zoom Lens then getting a EF70-300mm IS Zoom Lens with it
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i love my nikonD40. It's more camera than i need given my lack of shooting talent, but i think I'll grow into it. I still owe moody a sixxer for suggesting it.
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which nikon lens you guys recommend for zoom and action shots.
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which nikon lens you guys recommend for zoom and action shots.
Budget?
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This will be my intro into SLR, I would get the D40 but that only uses certain lens, so I am looking for a new/newish D50 for around 400-500 on ebay, then spend money on a good lens that will last me for years to come and even when I upgrade my camera. I guess I can spend about 1K on the lens.
I know there is not really an all around lens, but I would like something close to that and something that will give me high speed action. I am tired of these compact cameras that sit there trying to adjust and focus for 5 seconds before the pic is taken, even if everything is perfect the shutter lag is to long for action pics.

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why do some lenses have eg. 80-200mm and others are just 200mm, are they a fixed zoom when they just have that one number.

I am coming from compact cameras, so I am use to zoom in terms of X, not mm. So how much zoom is 200mm, 300mm and so on.

I just started today looking seriously into this so there is lots more reading and learning I have to do.

I don't mind spending on a quality lens. I rather spend a little to much then try and take the cheap route and end up not being happy with what I buy. I have looked for a site that does lens reviews but have not come across one yet.

I have been reading alot on this site and others, and came across this nikon lens, but that may be more than I need, price is a little high also. It seems though that if you want good pic you have to pay for a good lens and I want to do this right the first time without wasting money on something I wont use.

http://www.digital-slr-guide.com/best-action-lens.html

http://www.nikonusa.com/template.php...productNr=2139
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I thought the 300 dollar digital cameras were expensive

thats alot of money to take pictures
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I just bought a D50 from Best Buy outlet store on ebay. It comes with a 18-55mm lens. I just need one with some zoom now.
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I just bought a D50 from Best Buy outlet store on ebay. It comes with a 18-55mm lens. I just need one with some zoom now.
Cool. I'm writing up a long reply to you previous post... :laughing6
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This will be my intro into SLR, I would get the D40 but that only uses certain lens, so I am looking for a new/newish D50 for around 400-500 on ebay, then spend money on a good lens that will last me for years to come and even when I upgrade my camera. I guess I can spend about 1K on the lens.
I know there is not really an all around lens, but I would like something close to that and something that will give me high speed action. I am tired of these compact cameras that sit there trying to adjust and focus for 5 seconds before the pic is taken, even if everything is perfect the shutter lag is to long for action pics.

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why do some lenses have eg. 80-200mm and others are just 200mm, are they a fixed zoom when they just have that one number.

I am coming from compact cameras, so I am use to zoom in terms of X, not mm. So how much zoom is 200mm, 300mm and so on.

I just started today looking seriously into this so there is lots more reading and learning I have to do.

I don't mind spending on a quality lens. I rather spend a little to much then try and take the cheap route and end up not being happy with what I buy. I have looked for a site that does lens reviews but have not come across one yet.

I have been reading alot on this site and others, and came across this nikon lens, but that may be more than I need, price is a little high also. It seems though that if you want good pic you have to pay for a good lens and I want to do this right the first time without wasting money on something I wont use.

http://www.digital-slr-guide.com/best-action-lens.html

http://www.nikonusa.com/template.php...productNr=2139

Sounds like you are where I was a few months ago. I chose the D50 over the 40 for the same reasons you mentioned. Back then I was able to pick it up for $440 body-only. I know you can get a refurb for $400 right now from Adorama. Not sure how easily you can still find new ones.

For an action lens, I'm using the Nikon 70-300VR (f4.5-5.6). It's about $500. The lens you linked is about $1600 and is a f2.8 (this is the lens that the pro photographer at MSR was using last time I talked to him). In general, faster glass is better (and bigger, heavier, and more expensive). The bigger the maximum aperture of the lens (the lower the 'f' rating) the more light it is able to allow in and that means you can get a higher shutterspeed in a low light than slower glass. It usually also autofocuses faster. Both of these attributes are important for sports photography. If you are shooting always outdoors in bright sun its not an issue but can become one when it gets overcast or towards the end of the day. Inside or night shooting is a totally different scenario with its own requirements.

As you pointed out, if the lens says something like 70-200mm that is a zoom lens with a range of 70 to 200mm. If it just says 200mm then its a fixed lens and you have to physically move yourself to zoom. :laughing6

To figure out how much zoom you need you'll need to judge how far from the action you'll be. For example, at MSR-Houston with the new restrictions on where you can stand near the pit lane even 300mm isn't enough in my opinion. I used to find 300mm to be ok if i was standing near turn 17 up against the concrete wall where the tires were. For other tracks where you can get close, 200 is probably enough. You just have to experiment and see.

For longer zooms (200+) the VR (vibration reduction) function of the better Nikon lenses makes a huge difference.

I also have a Nikon 18-200mm VR that is an excellent all around lens but pricey ($750) and hard to find. A new one that was just released is the 55-200VR for around $250.

There are plenty of sites out there with reviews and info about the different lenses, www.kenrockwell.com has some good honest reviews of Nikon lenses, just keep in mind he's not an action photographer but the general information there is helpful. Another site is http://www.bythom.com/

If you are just getting started with DSLR's I'd recommend the book "Understanding Exposure" by Bryan Peterson. It's easy to follow and covers all the basics.

If you'd like to chat about cameras let me know, this kind of discussion might be easier in person or over the phone :laughing6
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