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Old 10-16-2014, 07:42 AM   #41
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lol okay....you guys are getting way off topic now.
Again what's your point?
You're already paying 30k a year in income tax, so it's cool if they rip you off for another 200?
Why not give them another 1000 for the of it since it's a lot less than 30k.
Your logic makes absolutely no sense. Are you guys just arguing for the sake of arguing?
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Old 10-16-2014, 08:15 AM   #42
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like really how will that money ever really be used?

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I think they should use that money to give a tax credit to those who put more than 20000 miles/year on their bikes. Ecofriendly?
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---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Speaker Joe Straus <District121.Straus@house.state.tx.us> Date: Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 12:49 PM Subject: In Response to Your Recent Email
Dear XXXXXX:
Thank you for contacting me regarding the Motorcycle Education account. I appreciate your taking the time to contact me. I would be more than happy to provide you with some background for this issue.
The Motorcycle Education account was created in 1983, and is likely to have an unappropriated, unobligated balance of $14.4 million by the end of fiscal year (FY) 2013. Per statute, funds in the account may be used only to defray the cost of administering the motorcycle operator training and safety program. Every time certain fees related to motorcycle licenses are paid, both commercial and personal, $5 of those fees are added to this fund. FY 2013 revenue is projected at $2 million.
Unfortunately, there have been no appropriations from the fund since FY 2006, however, in 2012, I created an interim committee to study the use of these funds in the budget process. During the 83rd Legislative Session, legislation was passed, in order to reduce the state's reliance on these accounts and, as a result, our state is on the right track to reverse this issue.
Furthermore, I charged the House Committee on Appropriations to research this issue further as we prepare for the 84th Legislature which will begin in January 2015. The Legislature will continue to study this issue to determine if it is best to increase appropriations from the fund, add other allowable uses of the fund, or reduce/eliminate the fee. In the meantime, I encourage you to follow the committee's work and to contact the House Committee on Appropriations to share your views on this issue. The committee can be reached at:
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http://www.house.state.tx.us/committees/
Again, thank you for writing. Transparency in the state government and budget is one of my top priorities of the House, and your input is important to ensure that we address the funds in a way that is of the greatest benefit to the state. If I can be of further assistance to you on this or any other issue, please do not hesitate to contact me.
Sincerely,
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If this info is correct, and I'm reading this right, this money can only legally be used to defray the cost of motorcycle education. We don't need to come up with ideas for how to use it, it's already been set. Sounds like they're just not doing it.
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The thread is interesting but drifting way off base - - - -

Let's say they do charge $1000 for M. They have this stock pile of money now. They are using it to play numbers games.

What would YOU have them do with the money? If we pay $1000 for M and it's supposed to be used for US RIDERS - what should they be doing with it??? Let's here a decent proposal that we can get behind. What should be done with that $1000 that directly benefits RIDERS??

Fixing potholes benefits cagers and anybody else that doesn't like even the way they look. I'd like to here some idea that tells me I'm getting something directly back as a benefit to my riding experience. Not putting up some dumbass "Share the road with bikes" sign that everyone ignores.

That sign would carry weight if it said "Warning! Motorcycles are allowed to carry and use fully automtic weapons if they deem you a driving idiot!" Of course I don't want to see that, but I'm making a point (like the one on top of my head).

What is a useful benefit that the money should be used for? Let's get specific about something that will actually WORK DIRECTLY for BIKERS and we can all get behind it. Just about the money sitting there is useless. They'll put up some stupidass signs that don't do a thing, but then they can claim the spent "this much money" on biker safety programs.
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How about pushing through legislation to legalize and raise awareness for lane splitting?

Free/discounted tolls?
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How about pushing through legislation to legalize and raise awareness for lane splitting?

Free/discounted tolls?
Awareness programs are good for . We all know it. The only cagers that are aware of bikers are bikers that happen to be in their car that day.

Free tolls don't get us our money back in the form of something tannable. I take the toll road every day. If I pay the two tolls, I add about 2 minutes to my 45 mile trip. Big deal.

I don't want any more fkucing legislation. Politicians take that money then. I want something tangable like a specified bike parking area specifically marked off for bike parking only and some kind of security. Or how about some way to mark off left turn lanes for bikes only to lessen the chance of us getting hit in the . Or gubment supplied beer holders for bikes...... Just kidding.
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I feel the need to reiterate, directly from the office of the Speaker of the House, Joe Straus:
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Per statute, funds in the account may be used only to defray the cost of administering the motorcycle operator training and safety program.
The issue is not that they don't know what to do with the money, the issue is that they are DOING NOTHING.
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Look man I don't care, I just want free tolls
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I feel the need to reiterate, directly from the office of the Speaker of the House, Joe Straus:


The issue is not that they don't know what to do with the money, the issue is that they are DOING NOTHING.
State it bolder if you want. Make it in RED. . . . . I could give a about defraying the cost. I WANT SOMETHING FOR THE MONEY. Not just an M on my license. The mayor can make it legal for me to go into the women's room with the stroke of a pen - She/they, whoever - can change this just as fast.
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^ this guy gets it.
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I got my M when I was 18 and you didn't have to take a stupid class. Paid nothing.

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Training sites in this state tend to be mostly private companies (there's two on this forum) and they are being squeezed more and more. Did you know that Texas dictates the most a provider can charge? So, unlike most businesses they can't pass costs on to other customers. Think about what's gone up since 2005: insurance, fuel, rents, bikes, maintenance, materials, etc. etc.
This is how most of these things work, like CHL instruction. MSF instructors have nothing to complain about, fortunately for me, and bad for the CHL guys, there are no more classes for renewals.
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So where did the OP (cog) get their info from?
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So where did the OP (cog) get their info from?
Its public information, just look it up.
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This is how most of these things work, like CHL instruction. MSF instructors have nothing to complain about, fortunately for me, and bad for the CHL guys, there are no more classes for renewals.
How do you figure?
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I didn't either. All I had to do was take the test and BAM! M endorsement. Lol
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I didn't either. All I had to do was take the test and BAM! M endorsement. Lol
Make sure that you maintain that M endorsement when it comes time to renew or "bam" you'll be taking the course.
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I've had an M endorsement since 92. I'm pretty sure I know how it works Mr scoutguy..
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I've had an M endorsement since 92. I'm pretty sure I know how it works Mr scoutguy..
I'm sure you do Mr. Toe
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