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Old 05-22-2007, 05:03 PM   #1
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I have an '02 R6 and the bike ran well until yesterday. I went to turn the bike on (after it had been sitting for close to 4 hours) and the bike turns on funny. It is not the normal sound I am used to hearing, but I overlooked it and took off. This is when the problems started occurring:
1. As I start to accelerate, the bike seems to want to die. It feels as if the bike is starved for fuel, it gets bogged down and hesitates. It appears it wants to die
2. I can rev the engine to higher RPMs and get on the gas and the bike hesitates and then gets going,

I am doing some research and i found some possible problems:
Air Filter - can't be a problem, as I changed this less than 2,000 miles ago
Gas Line - don't see how this line could be restricted all of a sudden
Lean Air/Fuel Mixture - don't see how this could be a problem that creeps up suddenly
Throttle Bodies/Carbs not synced - had the carbs synced about 12,000 miles ago (maybe do it again??)
Idle - idle seems to be fine except for the funny sound now

I was thinking of taking the bike in the clean the fuel filter, get new sparks plugs. If there are DIY, then please point me to them as I would like to work on my own bike but am not averse to taking it to a reputable person/shop to look at. Also, any help on the issue would be appreciated.

Some other things i am thinking of are:
vacuum leak (don't notice any suction when opening the gas cap)
Ignition Coils (wouldn't this issue come on slowly?)
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Old 05-22-2007, 05:06 PM   #2
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I'm having the same issue on my SV. Seems that " the SVs' front sparkplug seals have a tendency to leak water in heavy rain, which means that dirt and grime can get down into the well and clog up the drain hole. Water then pools up in the sparkplug well, eventually "drowning" the sparkplug and causing misfires (or a complete lack of firing) in the front cylinder.
So: if your SV ever acts like total in the rain (or just after a washing/rainstorm), pull off the front sparkplug boot and re-seal it. Then, shove a pipe cleaner up that drain hole and clear it out. Nine times out of ten, this will solve your wacky engine behavior. " from the sv board.

this may help not sure but thought I would share
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Old 05-22-2007, 05:45 PM   #3
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Yeah, the only problem is that I don't have an SV...:laughing6
no, but I hear ya... I am going to check each of the cylinders tonight, cause if one ain't firing then the pipe should be cool, right? But the idle seems fine, as I do not feel any skips in the idle...
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JetG has the same problem on his 06!!! at least i thought it was SLUGGISH AND SLOW! maybe you should get a SUZUKI!
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Old 05-22-2007, 11:21 PM   #5
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JetG has the same problem on his 06!!! at least i thought it was SLUGGISH AND SLOW! maybe you should get a SUZUKI!
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JetG has the same problem on his 06!!! at least i thought it was SLUGGISH AND SLOW! maybe you should get a SUZUKI!
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problem solved!
Keep talking s#!t, assmunches... :laughing6 but I will pass... will stick to my R6... I have faith in it...

I am going to change out the fuel filter and also change out the sparks... any suggestions (aside from the stealership) to get these items would be appreciated... thanks.
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Sounds like a bad load of fuel. Put some water dispersant in it.
How old are the plugs?
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Sounds like a bad load of fuel. Put some water dispersant in it.
+1..........this could be an on going problem, with the prices where they are most people are only buying Regular gas and stations will be running off the BOTTOM of the tanks=more getting into your tank. Your better off buying the Premium.
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Sounds like a bad load of fuel. Put some water dispersant in it.
How old are the plugs?
that is what I thought initially... so i went to O'reilly and bought some Seafoam... i dumped about 2 shotglasses worth into the tank and then ran the engine... is there a difference in what Seafoam does and the water dispersant? Also, after the water disperses, how do you get the water out?

the plugs are pretty old... i am going to try changing them out and also get a new fuel filter...

Anyone know of a place to get spark plugs? Can you go to any autoparts stor to get the plugs? Also, how hard is it to replace the spark plugs??? I am looking to work on my own bike, but if it would be easier to give it to a shop, i am open to that idea (as time is something I don't have these days)

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+1..........this could be an on going problem, with the prices where they are most people are only buying Regular gas and stations will be running off the BOTTOM of the tanks=more getting into your tank. Your better off buying the Premium.
I don't pump the regular or the premium, I run the middle grade...(89 octane) man, this sucks..
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do you have a power commander?
No, I thought power commander is for fuel injected bikes... mines carburated...
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Hmm really, Sluggish and slow, how about we see how fast that Shitzuke will run against my 06 R6.


As for your problem, sounds like a fuel problem to me, run that tank out and see if that helps.

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What was your fix? I am hoping it is not the coils and it is as simple as bad fuel, spark plugs, etc.
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No, I thought power commander is for fuel injected bikes... mines carburated...

I see. I am not a yami guy. g/l
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I see. I am not a yami guy. g/l
'02 was the last year for the yami carbs... '03 until now are all fuel injected...
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that is what I thought initially... so i went to O'reilly and bought some Seafoam... i dumped about 2 shotglasses worth into the tank and then ran the engine... is there a difference in what Seafoam does and the water dispersant? Also, after the water disperses, how do you get the water out?
Thats not what Sea Foam does. Change the fuel filter, plugs and get some fresh gas in it.
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bad fuel,plugs,coil packs
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I don't pump the regular or the premium, I run the middle grade...(89 octane) man, this sucks..
FWIW, Your wasting your money with 89 octane, and it's blended at the pump
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Thats not what Sea Foam does. Change the fuel filter, plugs and get some fresh gas in it.
That is the way the bottle directed me to use it... I know the better way would have run it through a vacuum line, but I don't know how to do that... also, I used it in a manner to see if it was a fuel issue... I am guessing the issue now is spark plugs... (or atleast hoping)

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bad fuel,plugs,coil packs
I hope it is just fuel and plugs... if it is coils, I am screwed... cause isn't that expensive???

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FWIW, Your wasting your money with 89 octane, and it's blended at the pump Regular 70%/Premium30%.:eh:
I beg to differ... yeah, it may be mixed at pump, but a buddy of mine's mother works as a chemist in refinement (texas city) and she has stated that the 89 octane is usually a 93 dump... so you get a higher amount of 93 in the 89... plus, the bike is designed for 87... I run premium in the bike every so often...
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