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Old 10-09-2014, 01:52 PM   #1
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Unhappy HELP! Bike died plus new rider so SUPER lost :/

Don't think it's a battery problem. When it first died each start up got weaker and weaker till it wouldn't even crank over, I left it sitting for a few days then uncovered to try cranking again and it turned on so don't think it's the battery? Idle sits at practically 0 when it does start and in neutral will stay on slightly longer then when I put it in first and almost immediately dies. Regardless of being in gear or neutral it dies out and fairly quick (about 10-15 seconds) and if I give any gas (whether in N or 1st) it dies out immediately... I'm new to riding as well as knowledge of bikes as well so really clueless! Really would appreciate some HELP!
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And after buying the bike, which was pretty recent (about 3 months), I put a brand new battery in it that's also another reason why I didn't think it really could be the battery. I have a trickle charger so I was thinking I will take it out and charge it over night and see whether that could be the problem first to be able to eliminate whether it's a battery problem or not?
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I'm thinking your problem with dying is caused by a weak battery, which is likely a symptom of a charging system problem (burnt stator or voltage regulator).

Get the battery charged up, and when it starts and runs do your tests on the charging system. If it doesn't start after that, we'll go from there.
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Battery or reg/rectifier, probably battery.
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bypass the kick stand switch.
My track bike had those exact symptoms!
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My track bike had those exact symptoms!
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Jae- How would I test the charging system? Sorry complete newbie, trying to learn the terminology..

R6 Racer- I'm in Webster right off of 45 and off of E. Medical Center by the Bay Area regional hospital, how about you?

Tomball D- What is the rectificer or reg?

UniFiddy- Do you have any idea if that is usually color coded or where it is located on an 05 R6?? And just for the sake of the knowledge what even is the kickstand switch? I've seen a few people posting about bypassing it and how it helped their situations but I've never known what it was.

But appreciate the immediate help you guys! Hopefully get her up and running again ASAP!
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Jae- How would I test the charging system? Sorry complete newbie, trying to learn the terminology..

R6 Racer- I'm in Webster right off of 45 and off of E. Medical Center by the Bay Area regional hospital, how about you?

Tomball D- What is the rectificer or reg?

UniFiddy- Do you have any idea if that is usually color coded or where it is located on an 05 R6?? And just for the sake of the knowledge what even is the kickstand switch? I've seen a few people posting about bypassing it and how it helped their situations but I've never known what it was.

But appreciate the immediate help you guys! Hopefully get her up and running again ASAP!
Kickstand switch kills the motor when bike is in gear and kickstand is down. Sometimes they will malfunction and not allow the motor to run even when in neutral.

Stator is basically like an alternator and the rectifier/reg changes the voltage from ac to dc. Either one could effect your charging system.

Test your charging system with a volt meter to see how many volts you're getting to the battery when the bike is running. You should be getting around 14V i believe. If you are not very mechanically savvy you may want to take it to a mechanic. There are some reputable mechanics on the MH Sponsor section.
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I have the same year and model bike, I love it. I only ride it on the track now.
-do to the voltage check like they said
-see if the front sprocket could be throwing a lot of grease onto the kickstand sensor, like mine was. (my bike would die when I was pitting in, doesn't do it anymore)
-Patrick runs "Motorcycles Unlimited" and is active on here and cares about feedback. However, you want to know a lot before you rely on someone else to work on your bike so research what you can so you know what they're supposed to do and can explain what they've done.

We've avoided using other people to service our bikes for the most part, it's our life on those two wheels and no one will care for that work like we do. So, learn what you can. It will be worth it.
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Battery should have 12.65 volts with the engine off. 14.3 to 13.6 while running. Yamahas' are notorious for the stator going bad. $400 to fix.The shops will usually replace the voltage regulator first.
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WbDDot- okay ya I read up on the kickstand switch and if I remember correctly I have had the bike run a few times and forgot to kick the stand up while in 1st going down the street till I heard a little scrape which made me realize it was still down and kicked it up so would that mean the switch is completely dead and not working, but if it's dead shouldn't the engine cut-off? Or is that what "bypassing" allows you to do? And for the charging system any idea where that is located on a bike or mine to be exact? Or is that just something I need to google? Or do you mean when the battery is hooked up, run the bike, check voltage then kill it and check it when off?

myla296- since you have the same year where exactly is the switch located? And for the sake of knowing, what do you mean when you say "pitting in"? But ya that's one main reason I wanted a used bike really want to learn how to maintain it myself then soon learn to be able to do that with my car, don't wanna go through the extensive charges of shops and not knowing what is actually getting fixed or if I'm signing a sheet of paper and handing over money...

dinosaur- thanks for the reference! Definitely will have to hit him up for some insight but what area do you stay in?

pbfoot- I've read up on that and saw that to be true for sure, so hypothetically, if that was the problem is it a tough fix for a DIY? Or something you generally need to take to a shop?

r6racer- that'd be awesome, lemme get her up and running again and then I'll definitely be hitting you up for some advice and a check-up on her whenever you're available.

-Besides that I have the battery on the trickle charger right now actually and seems to be true that that could be a problem because it's been on there for almost 4 hours now and still about 80% there so after I hook it back up tomorrow I'll let you guys know whether she's back up and running, if she does turn over would you say she's okay to actually ride or would I have to be worried about her dying out on me while riding or when I get to a destination and have to crank her back up? Just eager to ride...
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skd23- If you are mechanically inclined it can be done. Get a service manual. That is how I learned to work on vehicles 30 some odd years ago.
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Don't think it's a battery problem. When it first died each start up got weaker and weaker till it wouldn't even crank over, I left it sitting for a few days then uncovered to try cranking again and it turned on so don't think it's the battery? Idle sits at practically 0 when it does start and in neutral will stay on slightly longer then when I put it in first and almost immediately dies. Regardless of being in gear or neutral it dies out and fairly quick (about 10-15 seconds) and if I give any gas (whether in N or 1st) it dies out immediately... I'm new to riding as well as knowledge of bikes as well so really clueless! Really would appreciate some HELP!
You say it dies out whether in neutral or in gear, correct?
If that's the case it won't be the kick stand switch.
Had you just gotten some fuel? A load of bad gas will make the bike not want to run. Do you have gas in the bike?
Continually trying to start it because it won't run/barely runs can run the battery down quickly.
Will it stay running if you give it some throttle in neutral?
What's the bike idled at?
Since you have a trickle charger put the battery on that overnight so it's fully charged.
If you have a volt meter make some basic checks:
Pull the seat off and make sure the battery cable connections are tight and not corroded.
With the bike off check voltage, at the battery it should be 12-12.4 volts.
See if the bike will start. If you can, have someone slightly rev the bike 3000-5000 rpm and check voltage, it should be at least 13 volts.
Post up what you find.
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