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Old 09-30-2014, 11:00 AM   #41
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I really don't follow the design philosophy. For the record a "wing" can be any fin with a cross-sectional profile and surface designed to generate aerodynamic force as it passes through a gaseous or liquid fluid at specific range of velocity. According to reports this is the H2R version which is track only and not for street use, but what kind of track? 300hp is probably great if you can put it to the ground but with that road race length swing arm it would be awful hard. Wings for stability at 200mph plus to create what- down force? Umm wings generate lift based on angle of attack to the fluid flow but still exert it at 90 degrees to chord, so if you wheelie that thing above say 55mph or so the wings will create both lift and drag to carry you over.

A track bike with no belly pan??? I have a bike with a mere 90flbs of peak rear wheel torque and it stretches 520 chain like its going out of style, and has spun the rear tire on the rim at least twice coming out a corner hard. Super charging is known to make more boost/ torque with rpm so how are they going to deal with that. I guess 300hp is great for saying who has the biggest wallet or the longest straights but I notice there isn't much of a break through in the way of the brakes to go with all that power. A 750cc in this chassis the supercharger and variable of two stage boost would be a killer!

I like the concept of the new chassis and swing arm though. Very nice.

I know its a concept and the street bike must be soon to follow but it does have a brake light and a low fuel warning light so what gives? Over all styling MISS!
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Old 09-30-2014, 11:09 AM   #42
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Old 09-30-2014, 11:19 AM   #43
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Looks like the riders will have to meet a certain range of posterior width.

Doesn’t look like it would be fun to hang off either
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Old 09-30-2014, 11:25 AM   #44
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The dash looks promising though!
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I believe that Kawasaki needs to send three of these bikes to me for testing. I get to select two friends to test the other two with me.
I don't think I'll be buying one until they make it into a bike rather than a gauge of how big their have gotten and wanna show them off. 99.999% of riders can't ride the power they have now. I know I can't. What other reason is there for making this thing?

If they have some designe engineers with a Frankenstien complex that could explane it. I woudn't take one if these lecherous abominations if they gave it to me with free gas and tires for life. I'm in the middle of negatiations to buy NASA. Last weekend I flew out to Denver and had both of my legs replaced. Bevo is good. If you noticed - I tend to lie once in a while.
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I really don't follow the design philosophy. For the record a "wing" can be any fin with a cross-sectional profile and surface designed to generate aerodynamic force as it passes through a gaseous or liquid fluid at specific range of velocity. According to reports this is the H2R version which is track only and not for street use, but what kind of track? 300hp is probably great if you can put it to the ground but with that road race length swing arm it would be awful hard. Wings for stability at 200mph plus to create what- down force? Umm wings generate lift based on angle of attack to the fluid flow but still exert it at 90 degrees to chord, so if you wheelie that thing above say 55mph or so the wings will create both lift and drag to carry you over.

A track bike with no belly pan??? I have a bike with a mere 90flbs of peak rear wheel torque and it stretches 520 chain like its going out of style, and has spun the rear tire on the rim at least twice coming out a corner hard. Super charging is known to make more boost/ torque with rpm so how are they going to deal with that. I guess 300hp is great for saying who has the biggest wallet or the longest straights but I notice there isn't much of a break through in the way of the brakes to go with all that power. A 750cc in this chassis the supercharger and variable of two stage boost would be a killer!

I like the concept of the new chassis and swing arm though. Very nice.

I know its a concept and the street bike must be soon to follow but it does have a brake light and a low fuel warning light so what gives? Over all styling MISS!
I believe the wings are just for cooling. Probably to handle the extra heat produced by that supercharger. Yes it is an impractical bike but tons of people are going to buy these. That's why they made it. You may not want to own but there is no way you wouldn't want to see what 300 horsepower feels like.
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I believe the wings are just for cooling. Probably to handle the extra heat produced by that supercharger. Yes it is an impractical bike but tons of people are going to buy these. That's why they made it. You may not want to own but there is no way you wouldn't want to see what 300 horsepower feels like.
That's what I read about the wings. They create a negative pressure zone which sucks air in for cooling.
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One site is saying the street 200hp H2 is going to be around £20,000 ($32,448). Wonder what the 296hp H2r is going to go for?
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WTF is this ! Looks like some nightmare from a post apocoliptic Terminator movie........at an ungodly speed (because that's what this nightmare is built for, right?) and come down the ramp to a red light...... then what? It overheats? I remember when Tampax came out with wings. I always say the true test is if it places at IOM TT. Yer not going to see this Hollywood, Judge Dredd, look mean, breast implant, Battle Star Galactica do in the real world of performance. Maybe the suspension, and powerplant/transmission are good, but it looks like Optimus Prime's fkucing eyebrow or something....
Oh my !! Best post ever!! It really make me laugh! I totally agree! is this bike going to be for the streets? Already your regular sport bike is too much for rush our traffic!
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Strange amount of hate for an interesting bike full of new technology. Almost like people would prefer bold new graphics.
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I really don't follow the design philosophy. For the record a "wing" can be any fin with a cross-sectional profile and surface designed to generate aerodynamic force as it passes through a gaseous or liquid fluid at specific range of velocity. According to reports this is the H2R version which is track only and not for street use, but what kind of track? 300hp is probably great if you can put it to the ground but with that road race length swing arm it would be awful hard. Wings for stability at 200mph plus to create what- down force? Umm wings generate lift based on angle of attack to the fluid flow but still exert it at 90 degrees to chord, so if you wheelie that thing above say 55mph or so the wings will create both lift and drag to carry you over.

A track bike with no belly pan??? I have a bike with a mere 90flbs of peak rear wheel torque and it stretches 520 chain like its going out of style, and has spun the rear tire on the rim at least twice coming out a corner hard. Super charging is known to make more boost/ torque with rpm so how are they going to deal with that. I guess 300hp is great for saying who has the biggest wallet or the longest straights but I notice there isn't much of a break through in the way of the brakes to go with all that power. A 750cc in this chassis the supercharger and variable of two stage boost would be a killer!

I like the concept of the new chassis and swing arm though. Very nice.

I know its a concept and the street bike must be soon to follow but it does have a brake light and a low fuel warning light so what gives? Over all styling MISS!
Electronics, I bet this bike won't give it the full 300hp till you are out of wheelie range.

I didn't think the wings up where the mirrors should be are for cooling. There are plenty of other wings that will shovel air to get better cooling.

I think this bike is just like the original H2, it's purpose is to push the limits of what is possible in terms of speed and hp. Also I think there is a limit for street bikes in Japan so the race version is only to go out and skips an regulatory restrictions.
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One of the comments I saw sums it up best:

The purpose of this bike is the give the rest of the industry the middle finger.
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I hope the engine will make it into other bikes... dig the frame!!
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It has my interest along with the Duc 1299.
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Looks nice... but a bit overkill with all the wings and ..

Is there space for curb monkeys @ PP1 on this beast?
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One site is saying the street 200hp H2 is going to be around £20,000 ($32,448). Wonder what the 296hp H2r is going to go for?
Someone posted an order invoice on FB that said $60k for the RACE version...
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Get out the check books people...$60k
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Get out the check books people...$60k
yep.. the street version is going to be close to 30k..

60K..

hmm...

10K to turbo my 12R (400 hp or so)
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leaves me change to pick up a new ZX10R or RSVR for the backroads...
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I saw a dealer invoice that showed cost to the dealer to be $60k!!!!
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