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Old 09-16-2014, 02:08 PM   #21
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Old 09-16-2014, 02:10 PM   #22
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!! she crashed the same way again?!?! didn't she do this just a couple weeks back?
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Tmax I'm having a hard time understanding what you're saying, you're saying a locked up tire will slow you down faster than a rolling tire?
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Old 09-16-2014, 03:12 PM   #25
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Also I'm at 20k street miles and 20 years of motorcycle riding.
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Im almost at 2 yrs hahaha
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My dirt bikes didn't have odometers, that 20k miles is since 2012.
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My dirt bikes didn't have odometers, that 20k miles is since 2012.
what does your "20 years" of riding dirt have to do with a crash at TWS (Texas World Speedway)? Ive seen other members boast about their 10+ 20+ years of riding and thats why I ask.

i dont think someone whos riding for 20+ years will always have more knowledge /experience than someone who could be riding for a year or two.
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what does your "20 years" of riding dirt have to do with a crash at TWS (Texas World Speedway)? Ive seen other members boast about their 10+ 20+ years of riding and thats why I ask.

i dont think someone whos riding for 20+ years will always have more knowledge /experience than someone who could be riding for a year or two.
It doesn't really, tmax was saying "do you even ride street?" So I told him my riding history.
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He doesnt even ride a motorcycle
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I'm still waiting for his answer about a locked up tire vs a rolling tire. I need some knowledge from the expert grand master braking guru.
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i dont think someone whos riding for 20+ years will always have more knowledge /experience than someone who could be riding for a year or two.
And this is what makes you "special".
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And this is what makes you "special".
i think a lot of us are "special" on here
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In all seriousness, no amount of rear brake would have un-fubared what happened there.
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Old 09-17-2014, 01:28 AM   #36
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In all seriousness, no amount of rear brake would have un-fubared what happened there.
But have you factored in the drag coefficient of 2 butts puckering at the same time?
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Actually locking the rear you're while up the air makes it worse, the inertia from that tire locking up sends the up even higher.

Just like dirt bike riders making their bikes nose dive by locking rear tire in air
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And all this serves to teach us two things...

Sometimes (often) swerving is a better option than just grabbing brakes and saying, "Oh ".

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And all this serves to teach us two things...

Sometimes (often) swerving is a better option than just grabbing brakes and saying, "Oh ".

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Yes, it's almost always better.
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Also I'm at 20k street miles and 20 years of motorcycle riding.
I've probably got somewhere between 60-80k street miles over 7 years, and don't know about riding at the limits they do on the track.

That said, I still think TMax is full of . The static friction coefficient (tire surface "static" in reference to the ground while rolling) is going to be higher than the dynamic friction coefficient (tire sliding across ground while locked up). You will always stop faster when your tires are rolling than when they're locked up. It's the exact same principle that makes you accelerate faster when your rear tire is "gripping".

While using any rear brake is bound to give you more overall braking force than just the front, I don't think it would've made much difference in this case.
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