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Old 06-10-2005, 08:19 AM   #21
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who do you take your bike to then?
i think we're fortunate to have two good local shops here in town... pretty much whatever you want, you can get done at either m-u or metric...

patrick's shop is the number one Íhlins place in this part of the country and andy's shop is the only authorized Race-Tech center around here... so they're both good... i've done business with them both...

the latest mods i've done (suspension wise) was racetech my front forks w/andy... absolutely amazing performance from the front now... it feels like a different bike... i mean it literally SLICES through the corners now!...

so no matter your preference - all i ask is for ya'll to support your local shops... b/c again we're really lucky to have the choices we do here in h-town and they both seriously rock!...*
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the latest mods i've done (suspension wise) was racetech my front forks w/andy... absolutely amazing performance from the front now... it feels like a different bike... i mean it literally SLICES through the corners now!...
Yeah, I was actually talking to Patrick at MSR about getting my front RaceTech'd... thats the next project on my list. I should have it done by the July TWS (Texas World Speedway) trackday. Just gotta convince the wifey.
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Re: Curious about your opinions on suspension...

Just so that everyone knows, I didn't mean to ruffle anyone's feathers w/ this topic. *The main thing I was interested in was mostly where people get their preference...

Patrick- *I appologize if I mis-spoke about your profit margins. *It's actually really surprising that your margins are that small on that stuff. *I didn't mean to infer that you outfit people w/ Ohlins just because you can or make more money or whatever. *I know Ohlins is good . *Don't get me wrong, if I had $3K burning a hole in my wallet I would probably buy some Ohlins forks and an Ohlins rear. *Also, according to Traxxion dynamics, if you're racing or doing lots of trackdays, every rear shock (Ohlins, Penske, Elka, etc) needs to be rebuilt every year. *Is this conflicting with your opinion, Patrick?
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Dhdrider, most of my post was not directed at anything you said, actually I should apologize for hijacking your thread and not really answering your question. That being said here's my opinion; Most of the suspension stuff out there is pretty good, especially if you're just doing trak days or occasionally racing.
I've used Ohlins, Penske, Fox, Koni, and WP shocks and have had good results. I've revalved front ends / raced bikes with Racetech, Traxxion, Lindemann, Thermosman, and Ohlins, also with good results.
I guess through the years I've developed some opinions though on what I like / tunes well / lasts. I've torn down shocks at the end of the season and many times found the Ohlins tear down was unnecessary, wheras most of the Penskes I've done needed it. I think alot of it goes into fluid managemnent and the way the different mfrs go about dampening. That being said IMO front fork servicing is often the most overlooked, whater the bike is stock or has high performance internals installed. The valving in the forks are more affected by the breakdown of the oil and are also much more subject to stiction. Any track bike should have it's forks serviced at least once during a season (not including the year end service). Even street bikes should have a service done at least every 10k miles.


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Dhdrider, most of my post was not directed at anything you said, actually I should apologize for hijacking your thread and not really answering your question.* * *That being said here's my opinion; Most of the suspension stuff out there is pretty good, especially if you're just doing trak days or occasionally racing.
* I've used Ohlins, Penske, Fox, Koni, and WP shocks and have had good results.* I've revalved front ends / raced bikes with Racetech, Traxxion, Lindemann, Thermosman, and Ohlins, also with good results.
I guess through the years I've developed some opinions though on what I like / tunes well / lasts. I've torn down shocks at the end of the season and many times found the Ohlins tear down was unnecessary, wheras most of the Penskes I've done needed it. I think alot of it goes into fluid managemnent and the way the different mfrs go about dampening. That being said IMO front fork servicing is often the most overlooked, whater the bike is stock or has high performance internals installed. The valving in the forks are more affected by the breakdown of the oil and are also much more subject to stiction. Any track bike should have it's forks serviced at least once during a season (not including the year end service). Even street bikes should have a service done at least every 10k miles.


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thanks for the knowledge, its always good to hear from people who have had all different brands. I hear people recommending to others about stuff that they don't even have on their own bikes. so far i have no complaints about my Ohlins they do their job everytime.
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coming from what i hear, it really depends what suspension guys tune what, cause i know everyone in tx except for patrick are penske guys
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coming from what i hear, it really depends what suspension guys tune what, cause i know everyone in tx except for patrick are penske guys
Yeah a lot of people I see out there do use penske. But like patrick said they're all good and if you're kicking w/whatever setup u got then why change. If u talk to different people they will give you different experiences and views, that's just the nature of humans, so if you're looking for something which everyone will agree on that's probably never gonna happen. So when you come across getting suspension just do a little research and make up your mind and your OWN decision! you'll never know until you've tried and experienced :biggthumpup:
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coming from what i hear, it really depends what suspension guys tune what, cause i know everyone in tx except for patrick are penske guys
Yeah a lot of people I see out there do use penske.* But like patrick said they're all good and if you're kicking w/whatever setup u got then why change.* If u talk to different people they will give you different experiences and views, that's just the nature of humans, so if you're looking for something which everyone will agree on that's probably never gonna happen.* So when you come across getting suspension just do a little research and make up your mind and your OWN decision!* you'll never know until you've tried and experienced* :biggthumpup:
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Yeah a lot of people I see out there do use penske.* But like patrick said they're all good and if you're kicking w/whatever setup u got then why change.* If u talk to different people they will give you different experiences and views, that's just the nature of humans, so if you're looking for something which everyone will agree on that's probably never gonna happen.* So when you come across getting suspension just do a little research and make up your mind and your OWN decision!* you'll never know until you've tried and experienced* :biggthumpup:
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Well lets see here... I ride a stock 2003 600RR and with the recommended tires and suspension settings getting handled at Motorcycles Unlimited I am running around a 2:07 at TWS (Texas World Speedway) in the level2 group my last time out with the Ride Smart guys. Seeing as how I was having to try and get around alot of traffic and passing on the inside is not allowed in that group I would say that is a fair time and Lapping a guy on a GSXR-1000 3 times in one session feels pretty good too. Now I am hoping to bump that time down a little on my trip out to TWS (Texas World Speedway) on the 20th with Lonestar and having some trackside support from the Motorcycles Unlimited crew. Yes, Patrick and Motorcycles Unlimited is at all of the Lonestar Track Days and CMRA racing events. Can anybody say that is not the best customer service one could want? Oh, you don' ride the track? Well last I checked Motorcycles Unlimited has been known to go pick up wrecked bikes on the street as well and I personally like having a bussiness and group of guys like that in my corner. right:

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say that all you want but if a big store has a cheaper price i'm jumping on it. local shop or big shop. i'll be if i "support my local shop and pay more" So i say go where the price for the product is cheaper.
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Support your local shops and they will support you.
say that all you want but if a big store has a cheaper price i'm jumping on it. local shop or big shop.* i'll be if i "support my local shop and pay more"* So i say go where the price for the product is cheaper.
Well... pricing should always be competitive but, more times then not it seems people see price illusions because they forget about shipping charges and time to the door. Everybody likes to get a deal though. right:
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say that all you want but if a big store has a cheaper price i'm jumping on it. local shop or big shop.* i'll be if i "support my local shop and pay more"* So i say go where the price for the product is cheaper.
Well... pricing should always be competitive but, more times then not it seems people see price illusions because they forget about shipping charges and time to the door. Everybody likes to get a deal though.* right:
i"m talking that 225 deal on pilot power tires that cycle gear had. LOL I'd be if i pay more. that was for a set. You'd probably support your local shop and pay that for a rear. I think you know what i'm saying though.
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Well lets see here... I ride a stock 2003 600RR and with the recommended tires and suspension settings getting handled at Motorcycles Unlimited I am running around a 2:07 at TWS (Texas World Speedway) in the level2 group my last time out with the Ride Smart guys.
I know what you mean... I'm stuck with stock F4i equipment! It sucks, haha... but I had the fork fluid changed recently and that made a nice difference.
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Well lets see here... I ride a stock 2003 600RR and with the recommended tires and suspension settings getting handled at Motorcycles Unlimited I am running around a 2:07 at TWS (Texas World Speedway) in the level2 group my last time out with the Ride Smart guys.
I know what you mean... I'm stuck with stock F4i equipment!* It sucks, haha... but I had the fork fluid changed recently and that made a nice difference.
I need to do all my fluids too.... :eh:
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