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Old 08-26-2014, 09:59 PM   #81
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According to another source, the CBR1000 accelerates from 0 - 200 KPH in 7.46 seconds. So, from 100 MPH to 124.3 MPH in 1.9 seconds. Whereas the 600's take 2.9 seconds to go about the same MPH from 100.

So, 1.0 seconds CBR divided by 1.9 seconds = 53%.

So, between 100 and 125 MPH a 1000 will feel roughly 50% faster than a 600.

Or, to really put it in perspective, a CBR 1000 goes from 100 to 143 in 4.4 seconds. An R6, from 60 - 100 in 3.7 seconds.

So, basically, a 1000 "feels as fast", and is accelerating just as fast from 100 to 140 as a typical 600 feels from 60 to 100. This, my friend, is why liter bikes rule the roost on the straights.

Now, throw in some numbers from a S1000rr and .....5.5 seconds, 100 - 148 mph. 60 - 100 in 2.33 seconds. 0 - 60, amazingly, no faster than a 600. 100 - 125 mph, 6.9 less 5.33 = 1.6 seconds. 1.3 seconds faster, divided by 1.6 seconds, and the BMW S1000 RR accelerates.....


81% faster from 100 to 125 MPH than a 600. BOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!


Source: http://www.1000rr.net/forums/1000rr-...-vs-zx10r.html

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0-50 1,78sec/11,16m 1,84sec/11,23m
0-100 3,37sec/44,52m 3,47sec/45,29m
0-150 5,09sec/104,39m 5,43sec/114,57m
0-200 7,46sec/221,16m 7,97sec/239,25m
0-250 11,87sec/501,13m 13,58sec/597,96m
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Old 08-26-2014, 10:03 PM   #82
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So, how does a 5.0 second 0 - 60 M3 feel versus a 9.0 second 0 - 60 Civic in 2nd gear? 83% faster, give or take.

So 600 riders are in civics. 1000 riders are strapped in M3's or Lotus Elise's in comparison.

Basic google searches....with math.


FWIW, I am faster on a 600 than a 1000 at MSRH, but marginally faster on the 1198 with all the bells and whistles.
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This is hurting my head ... This data is useless if you do not have the same ability to ride the bike as the person you want this bullshit data from. We could get on the fastest bike with the best brake system and one of is going to out ride / out brake the other. No two ways around it ... its common sense.

Find a bike you like, buy the thing and ride the out of it. Because not matter how much data you collect ... if you cant control the bike at fast speeds or have the reflexes to use that badass braking system you will be a puddle on the side of the street.

Your request is retarded .... no one is going to do your stupid experiment. If you want to know something ... do what most people do "Do it your self".
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Old 08-26-2014, 10:10 PM   #84
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What in the world are you on about?
Certain bikes aren't about statistics. A Ducati 900 SS/SP, any Speed Triple, RD400's, Honda Hawk GT, RZ350, V-Max's, A Grom, motards of almost any design, and a long list of others.

You have one of the top 5 (IMO) coolest, most visceral bikes ever made that has a soul, a rhythm when ridden, and the ability to leave behind many "sport" bikes if you allow it and have half a sack. Yet you are posting about some sort of perfect, impossible comparison scenario (sans rider) time data bullshit that correlates to absolutely zero.

It's just sad. Sort of like owning a bad dog that is kept in a crate while you discuss the merits of cat ownership.

Carry on; I was subscribed for fun, but it's old now.

Probably cuz I'm tarded.

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Old 08-26-2014, 10:35 PM   #85
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Tojo, calm down. Numbers can reflect reality. Reality is experienced to different degrees. If you tell me Pam Anderson sucked you off in 20 seconds and it took Roseanne Barr 200 seconds, I could imagine in my head....

that. You let that fat suck it? Ewwwe.

83% faster 100 to 125 mph. That says more than calculating how many single speed inner loop hipsters / austin graffiti artists envy your Grom scooter thingy, or how much environmentalists hate your two strokes.

See you at msrh on tards?

You know I kid. Me want grom too tojo.
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Certain bikes aren't about statistics. A Ducati 900 SS/SP, any Speed Triple, RD400's, Honda Hawk GT, RZ350, V-Max's, A Grom, motards of almost any design, and a long list of others.

You have one of the top 5 (IMO) coolest, most visceral bikes ever made that has a soul, a rhythm when ridden, and the ability to leave behind many "sport" bikes if you allow it and have half a sack. Yet you are posting about some sort of perfect, impossible comparison scenario (sans rider) time data bullshit that correlates to absolutely zero.

It's just sad. Sort of like owning a bad dog that is kept in a crate while you discuss the merits of cat ownership.

Carry on; I was subscribed for fun, but it's old now.

Probably cuz I'm tarded.

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What does the coolness of my bike have to do with answering a question like: "So what's the actual difference between an r6 and an r1?"
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Tojo, calm down. Numbers can reflect reality. Reality is experienced to different degrees. If you tell me Pam Anderson sucked you off in 20 seconds and it took Roseanne Barr 200 seconds, I could imagine in my head....

that. You let that fat suck it? Ewwwe.

83% faster 100 to 125 mph. That says more than calculating how many single speed inner loop hipsters / austin graffiti artists envy your Grom scooter thingy, or how much environmentalists hate your two strokes.

See you at msrh on tards?

You know I kid. Me want grom too tojo.
1. Pam took longer.
2. Roseanne was appreciative for the opportunity. Big girls need loving too.
3. I'm sensitive, you hurt my feelings.
4. yeah, I'll be there on the Tard.
5. Finally...f&%+ the environment, I do what I want and I'm part of the Problem.
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According to another source, the CBR1000 accelerates from 0 - 200 KPH in 7.46 seconds. So, from 100 MPH to 124.3 MPH in 1.9 seconds. Whereas the 600's take 2.9 seconds to go about the same MPH from 100.

So, 1.0 seconds CBR divided by 1.9 seconds = 53%.

So, between 100 and 125 MPH a 1000 will feel roughly 50% faster than a 600.

Or, to really put it in perspective, a CBR 1000 goes from 100 to 143 in 4.4 seconds. An R6, from 60 - 100 in 3.7 seconds.

So, basically, a 1000 "feels as fast", and is accelerating just as fast from 100 to 140 as a typical 600 feels from 60 to 100. This, my friend, is why liter bikes rule the roost on the straights.

Now, throw in some numbers from a S1000rr and .....5.5 seconds, 100 - 148 mph. 60 - 100 in 2.33 seconds. 0 - 60, amazingly, no faster than a 600. 100 - 125 mph, 6.9 less 5.33 = 1.6 seconds. 1.3 seconds faster, divided by 1.6 seconds, and the BMW S1000 RR accelerates.....


81% faster from 100 to 125 MPH than a 600. BOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!


Source: http://www.1000rr.net/forums/1000rr-...-vs-zx10r.html

km/h
0-50 1,78sec/11,16m 1,84sec/11,23m
0-100 3,37sec/44,52m 3,47sec/45,29m
0-150 5,09sec/104,39m 5,43sec/114,57m
0-200 7,46sec/221,16m 7,97sec/239,25m
0-250 11,87sec/501,13m 13,58sec/597,96m
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What does the coolness of my bike have to do with answering a question like: "So what's the actual difference between an r6 and an r1?"
Coolness?

I give up.
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Coolness?

I give up.
You can replace "coolness" with whatever adjective you like that better delineates your emotional state re: my bike, or yours, if that helps.
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What does the coolness of my bike have to do with answering a question like: "So what's the actual difference between an r6 and an r1?"
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I have a grom what do I do in this thread
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Swerve into and then hog the fast lane, and make sure you're flipping people off at every opportunity.
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As a prior owner of a Speed Triple, a 1st gen Triumph Tiger (steamer), and a Triumph Daytona 1200...

Please sell your Speed Triple to an actual motorcyclist, you make Triumph sad.
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thank you.
Now that that's done, what bike are you buying? Are you getting ABS?
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Now that that's done, what bike are you buying? Are you getting ABS?
No. I've decided against motorcycles and electronics forever. I shall pursue my passion: a mixture of being black, and having ridiculously large rims. I'm unsure which is more important, so I'm aiming for both.

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Wow. So this is why I was warned not to post in Motohouston. You people are either illiterate, retarded, or both. Literally every criticism was answered, and a simple but full explanation for the purpose behind this was given, but you're still going off on retarded tangents.

Peace, and may you one day return to your childhood school, where you were supposed to be taught how to read.



To the very few who posted something at least remotely useful, thanks.
Your premise is either complete , or covered in every magazine shootout in the history of ever. Don't get mad because actual riders are calling your attempt at obtaining "clean room data" about a bike's ability to exceed the maximum speed limit and posted turn speeds "for highway use" (and refusal to accept track data where one can actually use more of the bike "because race bike") stupid and pointless.

I am neither illiterate or retarded. I am, in fact, a scientist and I see this whole concept as attempting to collect meaningless data artificially limited to an arena that makes the data doubly meaningless...and everyone's responses reflect that. You're the one that's science illiterate.

The best answer is all modern sportbikes have enough acceleration to wheelie, and enough brake to endo, and neither should you do on a public road so what do you REALLY want?
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What does the coolness of my bike have to do with answering a question like: "So what's the actual difference between an r6 and an r1?"
And here's a perfect example. For highway use (remember, your limitation, not mine) the R1 is physically larger, and warms your with the pipes. For street use, that's IT. They both can accelerate to 75mph really f'in fast and stop from that speed within 10 ft of each other. You want other data? Guess what, now we're in the realm of the track data you don't want, and until you get at least top level club racers and probably pros...it STILL doesn't matter.
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We're effing doomed if scientists these days use data points like "They both can accelerate to 75mph really f'in fast."
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And the OP called us retarded... Way to win friends and influence people there Mr. Imus. I suggest you quit while you're still only just way behind.

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I tookt the fast lane this morning I was passing everyone
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