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Old 08-28-2014, 07:21 PM   #201
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Holy ! Your "real world" data fluctuates with the "real world"! Don't you get that?! The real world (street) is ever changing based on conditions and rider skill, all the hate data is at your google fingertips. Temp, alt, tire pressure, pavement, rider skill, bike condition, are all variables you are trying to ignore in order to get "verifiable" data. IMPOSSIBLE! I think (Jae) pointed it out best with a spec analogy of you trying to achieve a .005" tolerance with a 5.0 margin of error.
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Holy ! Your "real world" data fluctuates with the "real world"! Don't you get that?! The real world (street) is ever changing based on conditions and rider skill, all the hate data is at your google fingertips. Temp, alt, tire pressure, pavement, rider skill, bike condition, are all variables you are trying to ignore in order to get "verifiable" data. IMPOSSIBLE! I think (Jae) pointed it out best with a spec analogy of you trying to achieve a .005" tolerance with a 5.0 margin of error.
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The data was to get a real world difference between 600s and 1000s. It is incredibly sought after information
Yeah, sure it is

The data, or the goal?
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Tire pressure? It's a general acceleration test of an 190hp bike vs 110hp bike. You don't gotta be terribly precise to get a ballpark figure for this lol
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Holy ! Your "real world" data fluctuates with the "real world"! Don't you get that?! The real world (street) is ever changing based on conditions and rider skill, all the hate data is at your google fingertips. Temp, alt, tire pressure, pavement, rider skill, bike condition, are all variables you are trying to ignore in order to get "verifiable" data. IMPOSSIBLE! I think (Jae) pointed it out best with a spec analogy of you trying to achieve a .005" tolerance with a 5.0 margin of error.
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Tire pressure? It's a general acceleration test of an 190hp bike vs 110hp bike. You don't gotta be terribly precise to get a ballpark figure for this lol
Right because all the hundreds of comparo's done by Moto mags are way too precise with their stupid repeatable processes, and funding to put all the bikes on the same tires, ridden by semi pro riders. Who needs all that when we can just eyeball it.
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Right because all the hundreds of comparo's done by Moto mags are way too precise with their stupid repeatable processes, and funding to put all the bikes on the same tires, ridden by semi pro riders. Who needs all that when we can just eyeball it.
For comparing extremely similar bikes, which is what moto mags tend to do, of course you need extremely precise measurements. That isn't what this thread is about. Wtf is wrong with you people...
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The data was to get a real world difference between 600s and 1000s. It is incredibly sought after information, and the answers readily available to me and many others were useless.

I have no idea why this became a bash thread, but I can tell you hardly anyone bothered to understand the request before they gave their opinion, so many straw men lost their lives here.
dude, go buy a 600 shootout magazine....then find a liter bike shootout magazine. open both issues to the " results" page, this is where data will be listed from each "test"

Then compare the 600cc test results to the 1000cc test results and BINGO!!!!!! you'll have you answers.
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dude, go buy a 600 shootout magazine....then find a liter bike shootout magazine. open both issues to the " results" page, this is where data will be listed from each "test"



Then compare the 600cc test results to the 1000cc test results and BINGO!!!!!! you'll have you answers.

In his book, that isn't "real world data". He also asks what's wrong with the rest of us, because obviously, we just don't get it. This is, after all, highly sought after information by many people...
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Jesus H Christ 11 pages of irrelevant nonsense. OP
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For comparing extremely similar bikes, which is what moto mags tend to do, of course you need extremely precise measurements. That isn't what this thread is about. Wtf is wrong with you people...
What the do you mean "YOU PEOPLE? Do you mean literate people? Logical people? Critical thinkers? People capable of cognitive association?

If you simply have to have anecdotal data for your idiotic question, for the sake of entertainment here's one. The difference between my 636 and 1190RX going 0-120 is exactly two shifts and where the front wheel comes up. Is that inexact enough for YOUR PEOPLE?
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Well, OP, one thing that I think is important in choosing a street bike is the torque curve, which is difficult to quantify without dyno charts, but is exactly what I was going for with my comment on drive-ability.

Having ridden a Suzuki 1200cc I-4, Buell 1200cc v-twin, a Yamaha 1300cc v-4, and now a Triumph 1050cc I-3, even all being fairly similar displacement, each engine configuration has significantly different performance characteristics. Each is much lower on peak hp than any modern supersport, but has MUCH more usable torque under 6k rpm, which is where I find myself most in the real world.

I don't know who's seeking numbers on greatest street performance (600 vs 750 vs 1000) who won't be satisfied with magazine numbers. Anyone who wants real world data probably doesn't care much about the minimal difference in 100-140 mph between a 600 and 1000 as much as how easily they can pass an 18-wheeler without having to downshift.
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What the do you mean "YOU PEOPLE? Do you mean literate people? Logical people? Critical thinkers? People capable of cognitive association?

If you simply have to have anecdotal data for your idiotic question, for the sake of entertainment here's one. The difference between my 636 and 1190RX going 0-120 is exactly two shifts and where the front wheel comes up. Is that inexact enough for YOUR PEOPLE?
It is like you're allergic to reading or something. How in the world would that match the parameters set? :bang head: There is a difference between getting the data to the 0.0000001th degree, and "ehh, bit faster, I think"

"You people" meaning you and the other idiots that can't comprehend the simple concept of this thread... A thread that was answered on page 5 lol.

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