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Old 08-04-2014, 01:07 PM   #21
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So if you wear gear now you're a squid?
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I wonder how he feels about those squids that wear full leathers on Sunday Morning Rides...
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Old 08-04-2014, 01:10 PM   #22
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Then get knee pads. Those are NOT knee pads.

$15 A* pads work fine.

Any amount of protection you get form any gear on the street is false sense of security. Once you realize some idiot driver can take you out dead at any moment despite what protective equipment you have on, the better off you will be.

Drag knees at the track where we have an amperlamps ready.
I don't know if I'd go that far. If I got your meaning, dragging a knee is best left for the track, I agree.
But gear on the street is not just a false sense of security. It can make a huge difference in the severity of injuries.
Sure, you could get run over by a dump truck and no gear in the world will help but short of that kind of catastrophe, gear is good and these are just something new.
As mentioned, the ease of putting them on/taking them off just might mean the difference in whether or not they get used at all.
I've got knee pads that I seldom use because they're a pain in the .
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About the same as those squids that refuse to wear helmets while riding their bicycle. ..

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nothing like being able to drag knee while wearing my indestructible dickies shorts

now if i could just find a pair of comfortable steel toe chucks i'd be set
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ive touched a knee down twice in jeans...didnt think id get that low and really was just using the knee as a "sail" brake...silly i know but these squid knee protectors would have blocked me from having cool scars and holy jeans.
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Then get knee pads. Those are NOT knee pads.

$15 A* pads work fine.

Any amount of protection you get form any gear on the street is false sense of security. Once you realize some idiot driver can take you out dead at any moment despite what protective equipment you have on, the better off you will be.

Drag knees at the track where we have an amperlamps ready.


No do not get knee pads! Get CE rated knee protection/armor, which by the way these do have. I tend to like a little more shin protection as well.
Speaking as some one who had his leg saved from possible amputation by wearing race level knee protection under my work slacks, although an idiot cager started the chain reaction of evens that lead up to me laying on my back with a motorcycle on top of me, in the midddle of an exit from the freeway, in the end, it was the road and the bike itself, that did the damage.

Motorcycling is about managing risk levels not security. I agree the sliders are more likely for show than go but I stand by my statments:

This configuration is no likely to shift anymore that the knee armor in a pair of overpants, and to may likely stay put better.
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The fact that you can put them over your pants makes them more easier(still remember you after 20yrs Drll Sgt Fayer) and thus more likely to be used!

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I just think that the jeans will cause it to slip..
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Dosn't mean jack to me.

Go put on your sliders and fall on your knees. Then try it with some motorcycle specific pads and tell me what one hurts more.

Unless you are riding around dragging a knee on the street I say you are much better off with any decent knee pads.

Sliders are for sliding, pads are for absorbing impact. Choose the one you think you need more. If you choose sliders, I'm guessing you should be riding around in full leathers.
PS, plenty of knee pads are CE or other rated.

http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/a...por-knee-guard
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In a get off you need two things in the impact zones:

Abrasion resistance without excessive friction, to protect the skin and flesh from being ground away by the giant belt sander that is terra firma without so much friction that said item grips and causes one to tumble. SLIDING isn't as bad as tumbling.

Impact Absorption/Dispersion; to prevent or minimize the affects of acute blunt force transmitted back into the wearer's body resulting in trauma.


Unfortunalely generally speaking a matierial that is good at one tends to be horrible at the other. Hence the use of TPS and Titanium sliders in key areas on leathers with impact dispersing/ absorbing foam underneath. D3O is great stuff.

I agree knee dragging should be left for the track, but the reality is there are times when you aren't really pushing hard and that magic corner comes along and what comes natural just... comes natural.

I think the idea is brilliant from a functional and marketing perspective, pricing is a bit high but not way high. Going to wear a knee pad/armor on the outside, might as well put a slider on it. I'm I didn't think of it first.
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Then get knee pads. Those are NOT knee pads.

$15 A* pads work fine.

Any amount of protection you get form any gear on the street is false sense of security. Once you realize some idiot driver can take you out dead at any moment despite what protective equipment you have on, the better off you will be.

Drag knees at the track where we have an amperlamps ready.


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nothing like being able to drag knee while wearing my indestructible dickies shorts

now if i could just find a pair of comfortable steel toe chucks i'd be set
I'll ignore the idea that "comfortable" and "chucks" do not belong in the same sentence together (based on my own experience), and just leave this here:

Squids can Drag knee

I believe that specific pair is composite toe, but a buddy of mine had a pair with steel toes, though I'm having trouble finding a link to them at the moment.
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I'll patiently wait for the Icon Cloverleaf Elbow Sliders.
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For everyone criticizing, I don't disagree with the criticism of the efficacy of these pads/sliders. Of course I can't find the link now, but yesterday I saw a print version of a conversation one of the large vendor's employees had with an Icon rep (revzilla, maybe) and the rep tried to make it clear that this is not intended to be track-level gear. Their primary goal is to sell a level of protection to the crowd that would otherwise wear nothing, in the hopes that it will get them more into wearing ANY gear at all. There is a compromise in optimizing safety vs. styling, but the compromise is made to appeal to the "no gear" crowd in the hopes of changing their mindset regarding protective gear.

It's hard to argue that this is worse than nothing.
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Neighbors kid was trail riding and was knocked tarded because he didn't have a helmet on. Parents will have to care for him for life. Helmets do their job. Doesn't matter what the mode of transportation is.
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"Knocked tarded" is that a medical term?
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I'd wear these over my Pants, Not that I wear riding pants, BUT HEY, Any pants designed for a Logger is stronger then casual jeans.
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