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Old 07-28-2014, 08:30 PM   #61
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I've played with enough fuel to say, without hesitation, where you buy your fuel is far more important than putting 1.5 quarts of 87 in your tank full of 93 octane. I can run fuel samples if you'd like, but I'll gather the lab fees in cash up front!
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obviously not. . .all the cool kids just put gas on the ground It would be "stoopid" to consider actually putting some of that lowlife slumdog 87 in a bike that clearly performs at 100% efficiency on 93 octane.

Let's do a little bit of basic math to see who's really "stoopid":
([% Fuel A] x [Octane Fuel A]) + ([% Fuel B] x [Octane Fuel B])= Octane of Mix
For this exercise lets say you do get the full 1.5 quarts of 87 octane in your 4 gallon tank that you're attempting to fill with 93 octane.
(.09375 x 87) + (.90625 x 93)= Octane of Mix
8.15625 + 84.28125= 92.4375 Octane

Who's stupid here? The guy putting gasoline on the ground or the guy filling his 4 gallon tank with 92.4 Octane? i vote for the guy putting gas on the ground.
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I am by no means a track master. I can't even get to 150 mph on any of my liter bikes any faster that I can on any of my 600s. I'm sure a lot of you track gods can tell the difference in octane, but it will take me some serious testing and developing my feel.
But like has been mentioned, getting 93 minimum when I pay for 93 minimum just makes me feel better than getting 92.4 even though me, as a very average rider, I can't even begin to tell the difference.
BUT- It's like buying a gold bar and finding out there is a thin sliver of led down the middle.

Which brings me to a question. Well, maybe a few questions. What octane is race fuel, and how much does it cost? Also where can I buy some?
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I am by no means a track master. I can't even get to 150 mph on any of my liter bikes any faster that I can on any of my 600s. I'm sure a lot of you track gods can tell the difference in octane, but it will take me some serious testing and developing my feel.
But like has been mentioned, getting 93 minimum when I pay for 93 minimum just makes me feel better than getting 92.4 even though me, as a very average rider, I can't even begin to tell the difference.
BUT- It's like buying a gold bar and finding out there is a thin sliver of led down the middle.

Which brings me to a question. Well, maybe a few questions. What octane is race fuel, and how much does it cost? Also where can I buy some?
http://www.racegas.com/

http://www.vpracingfuels.com/motoroadracing.html
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The bigger question is the need. "Race gas" doesn't tell you much. For most an increase in octane will not result in higher speeds or more power, in fact it's opposite.
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http://www.racegas.com/

http://www.vpracingfuels.com/motoroadracing.html

GREAT - - BUT:

What could this do to my stock engine?....... or is it actually good for it?
Can someone post your personal results from using any of these fuels?

Noticable performance increase?
Cooler running or hotter?
Increased engine life? Or is it harder on an engine?
...yada yada......

I'm sure a few have run up both in dyno tunings and have done side-by-side comparisons. Can you share?
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The bigger question is the need. "Race gas" doesn't tell you much. For most an increase in octane will not result in higher speeds or more power, in fact it's opposite.
So then - What's the point of race fuel?? Consistancy?
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So then - What's the point of race fuel?? Consistancy?
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You want the truth? Take your stock engine bike to a dyno. Put 87 in the tank and make some pulls. Now dump it and add 93. Make some pulls. What you will most likely see is a drop in power. No ! Increasing octane allows a few things to be done to increase power on SOME engines. Those things cant be manipulated on your stock engine though. Timing and compression are examples of those tweaks that can be made. Adding forced induction, nitrous, timing, ect will call for increased octane to create the level of power that is achievable and do it more safety with less risk of detonation or knock.
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using oxygenated fuel WILL increase your hp on a STOCK engine. Will you see a difference in lap times? Probably not enough to matter.
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I already stated I'm not a track Jedi- but I really wanna be. Already stocked up on track bikes. ha.
Elaborate. Don't just roll your purdee little eyes.
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Ever seen one of these? Probably not. Ever ran one? Doubt it.

I've played with enough fuel to say, without hesitation, where you buy your fuel is far more important than putting 1.5 quarts of 87 in your tank full of 93 octane. I can run fuel samples if you'd like, but I'll gather the lab fees in cash up front!
I agree - So give some suggestions. I've bought Alero and got better results than Shell. I've bought Shell at one place and it sucked, another and it was GR8!! It also seems like I can buy from the same station/same pump and get significantly different results. I stopped in this dirty little single pump joint on HWY6 once when my fuel light came on and paid $3.09 for 87. - it ran and ran and ran. I made over 180 miles on that tank!!
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I agree - So give some suggestions. I've bought Alero and got better results than Shell. I've bought Shell at one place and it sucked, another and it was GR8!! It also seems like I can buy from the same station/same pump and get significantly different results. I stopped in this dirty little single pump joint on HWY6 once when my fuel light came on and paid $3.09 for 87. - it ran and ran and ran. I made over 180 miles on that tank!!
I try to buy Shell and my mileage has been consistent no matter the location
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I agree - So give some suggestions. I've bought Alero and got better results than Shell. I've bought Shell at one place and it sucked, another and it was GR8!! It also seems like I can buy from the same station/same pump and get significantly different results. I stopped in this dirty little single pump joint on HWY6 once when my fuel light came on and paid $3.09 for 87. - it ran and ran and ran. I made over 180 miles on that tank!!


And this tell you nothing?
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And this tell you nothing?
I suspect it was an anomaly. Haven't filled up there in a month but I pass it every day. This morning it was $3.13/gal. btw- If anyone is interested, it's the Time Out Food Mart on 6 and Warpath in Santa Fe, and gas at Sam's on 45s and 2004 was $3.19 yesterday, but you need a Sam's card.
But it appears that the cheapest performed the best.
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