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Old 05-13-2007, 11:44 PM   #41
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Are you a cop azylum??
no. im a bovine inversion engineer, but i have a brain.
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Old 05-13-2007, 11:47 PM   #42
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no. im a bovine inversion engineer, but i have a brain.
Oh ok. Just wondered cause you said "not on my shift". Just thought you might be a popo. lol
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Old 05-13-2007, 11:47 PM   #43
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if you say so bro. imho those are some mean machines, the fact that they are holding out on the potential of the machine with parts,only tells me they wanna make money on those parts. btw public saftey is not on the manuf. list.
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Old 05-13-2007, 11:52 PM   #44
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if you say so bro. imho those are some mean machines, the fact that they are holding out on the potential of the machine with parts,only tells me they wanna make money on those parts. btw public saftey is not on the manuf. list.

i wont argue with anyting you just said. but america has been pussified. just look at cars 30 years ago. high performance, no emissions. now because of the red diaper doper babies we all have to have green vehicles.

even with our bikes (and even those of us with smaller 600s) tuned down for american standards, theyre still scary as . my 600 still scares the out of me sometimes.

we hear about bike accidents by noobs all the time. can you imagine how bad it would be if they came with all the mods from the factory? my guess would be double the fatalities. they are meant to be more "user friendly" for the average joe.
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Old 05-13-2007, 11:55 PM   #45
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I feel what your saying but they are all extremely powerful when you get to a 600CC bike and up even if they are stock.
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for now...until bikes have to pass emissions. Lets hope that day never comes.
It's coming, Dynojet has already come out with 2 versions of the PCIII, one for "Race Use Only".
I believe that in less than 5 years you will be unable to remove the cats on a streetbike, no more full systems on street bikes, it will be slip ons only.
It won't affect the sportbike crowd much, but it will really impact the cruiser market.

I'd like to see a return to more versatile motorcycles, instead of building a very narrowly focused bike so that it does well for the magazines track test review.

I'm not talking about less performance, just less narrowly focused;
Broader, slightly higher bars, which will make the bike steer lighter.
Better seats and lower pegs that are more comfortable than for 30 minutes at a time.
Let's face it, on the street ground clearance isn't much of an issue, and if you're serious about doing track time, you'll end up with rearsets anyway.

Cam timing and engine tuning more biased towards midrange, not R6 gutless. (no offense to R6 owners)

However, I've been around bikes too long to realize that this probably won't happen, at least not in the U.S., anytime soon.
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I feel what your saying but they are all extremely powerful when you get to a 600CC bike and up even if they are stock.

exactly. just imagine how scary they would be if they had all of the modifications we pay extra for after buying the bikes? how many people buy these bikes haven never riden a bike before?
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I rode my buddies 05 R6 a few days ago. Nice bike but man, not impressed at all. Nice bike and handled well but no compared to my 636.

I thought it was just cause it had 30,000 miles on it but i guess not. lol
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exactly. just imagine how scary they would be if they had all of the modifications we pay extra for after buying the bikes? how many people buy these bikes haven never riden a bike before?
Prob a good bit more than half the buyers are beginners. Newbs are everywhere now a days!
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with 30k miles, theres no telling how much abuse and lack of maintainence was done one the bike. not a way to judge a bike maker.
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if you say so bro. imho those are some mean machines, the fact that they are holding out on the potential of the machine with parts,only tells me they wanna make money on those parts. btw public saftey is not on the manuf. list.
Other than Harley, none of the other mfr's really sell a lot of HiPo parts for the bikes they build, nor do most of them own interest in companies like Yoshimura, Dynojet, or Akrapovic, to name a few. So in all honesty, your observation really doesn't hold water.
As far as safety, I also disagree.
Compared to the bikes I started on, todays bike are MUCH safer, better brakes, ABS available on a lot of models, brighter headlights, taillights, steering dampers, good quality oem tires, etc.
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The bike was maintained rather well as far as i know. I know it had an exhaust and it was geared -1 in the front and +3 in the rear. I dont know why cause its by no means a stunt bike but even geared like that, it still felt turdish.
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spending that much time and money with r&d for the bikes, i'm quit sure they can make a can just as good as yoshi. brakes are better because science has evolved. its not engineers that make the materal, its chemist that come up with the material. All the companies do is take advantage of the knowledge, if braking was on they're agenda they would do research have came up the material. if you dont believe me look up the materials being used in brakes and do search in science's website and you'll see an abstract a year before it was utilized in the product.
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well lets put it this way:

if you were to by a sportbike with its full potential, how much would it cost?

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with that being said, how many of us would actuall now own one?


me personally, i wouldnt spend no 20k+ on something with only two wheels and no a/c.









unless it gave me head.
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spending that much time and money with r&d for the bikes, I'm quit sure they can make a can just as good as Yoshi.
I'm sure they can, but it won't pass Govt mandated noise regulations here and in Europe.

Also, your argument wasn't that they couldn't but that they didn't out of some ulterior motive to make more money.
For example, if HRC parts were readily available, than that might be true, but unfortunately they're not.
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also, the manufacturers maken no money off of the mods. its all from private and seperate companies.
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well lets put it this way:

if you were to by a sportbike with its full potential, how much would it cost?

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with that being said, how many of us would actuall now own one?


me personally, i wouldnt spend no 20k+ on something with only two wheels and no a/c.









unless it gave me head.
HAHA! Even if it gave me head, still not worth the dough. Ill never pay a dime for head but ill take free donations.... :laughing6 :laughing6

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if im paying over 20k for a bike, it had well better lick my or something.
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if im paying over 20k for a bike, it had well better lick my or something.

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Maybe 20k if it gave a good hummer.... lol
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