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Old 06-26-2014, 07:49 AM   #1
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Have ridden both hard. Fair test. Don't know what the brake issue was about but oh well. I'm certainly quicker on my EBR than my buddies Panigale and on the street is hands down the EBR for ergos.
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Based on what they said I would probably pick the EBR. Since I am not getting paid for ultimate fastest lap times that doesn't bother me and they got close enough that it really doesn't matter for someone at my skill level. The lack of quick shifter is lame, by far one of my favorite things about my aprilia. What really draws me in is the mid range and less peaky power range.
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They didn't factor in style points. Panigale would receive massive points, while the EBR would have points deducted due to its ugliness.
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They didn't factor in style points. Panigale would receive massive points, while the EBR would have points deducted due to its ugliness.
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Ducati 1199 Panigale receives the prestigious Compasso d’Oro design award. Compasso d’Oro is Italy’s most revered award in the industrial design field, and is presented every three years by ADI, the Associazione per il Disegno Industriale, celebrating Italian design excellence.

The 3-year cycle between each edition of the Compasso d’Oro awards makes the battle even fiercer, as the judges have to sort through an immense number of applications. The 2014 edition was the 23rd ceremony of the Compasso d’Oro, with over 270 products making it to the final stage. The entries are judged by a panel of experts which select the most significant and praise-worthy products, and this year they decided that the 1199 Panigale is the best product among all, for “having transferred competition level performance to an elegant mass-production model that is still consistent with the brand’s traditional image”.

Believe it or not, the Ducati 1199 Panigale is the first-ever motorcycle to receive this high distinction and make it into the Compasso d’Oro Collection. With a tradition spanning across more than 60 years, the Compasso d’Oro has induced over 300 products in its historical Collection, but no bike has ever been able to reach the ultimate goal. The Collection also includes more than 2000 other products selected for “honorable mentions”. The Collection is also included in the Italian Ministry for Cultural Heritage’s official points of interest list as being of “exceptional artistic and historical interest”.

The Ducati 1199 Panigale is the successor of the 1198 model, and is powered by an 1198cc Desmodromic L-twin engine which delivers 195 horsepower @ 10,750 rpm and 132Nm (98.1 lb-ft) at 9,000 rpm. Unlike most other older Ducati machines, the 1199 Panigale comes with a wet multiplate clutch with slipper and self-servo functions. The frame has a monocoque aluminum architecture rolling with 10-spoke wheels and Marzocchi/ Sachs front/rear suspensions. The S and R versions are equipped with 3-spoke wheels, Ohlins NIX30 forks, and Ohlins TTX36 rear shock absorbers. The S and R versions are also the lightest, tipping the scales at 166.5 kg dry (367 lbs).

“Founded in 1954, the ADI Compasso d'Oro is the world's longest established and most influential design award. Developed from an idea by Gio Ponti, it was first organized by the Rinascente department store group with the aim of highlighting the value and quality of early Italian-designed products. In 1964, ADI became responsible for its organization, supervising its impartiality and integrity,” Ducati sources mention.

The Compasso d’Oro is not the only design award for the 1199 Panigale. The bike also received the Red Dot Award in 2013. Follow the link for more hi-res photos of the 1199 Panigale.
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I woudlnt get either. The panigale looks great, but it runs hot as and is frame-less. You dump that thing and its totaled.

Its a polished sexy .

BMW s1000RR/RSV4/zx-10 are the top 3.
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You just gotta come to the conclusion that if you do drop it hard then you suck. And just go get another.I used to really baby mine now I don't care. If it gets wrecked then that's what full coverage is for. I don't run "frame" sliders on mine because they're ugly. I like to live dangerously. [/austinpowers]
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You just gotta come to the conclusion that if you do drop it hard then you suck. And just go get another.I used to really baby mine now I don't care. If it gets wrecked then that's what full coverage is for. I don't run "frame" sliders on mine because they're ugly. I like to live dangerously. [/austinpowers]
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195 HP....ya right...maybe for a split second. Ducati wildly over estimates their HP. BMW S1000RR, RSV4 and most other 1000cc Supersports will walk the 1199. Heck, I raced my buddy on his 1199 (tuned ECU, full Termi, air filter, and gearing), me on my 2013 Tuono (stock) and I pulled away from him both times during a second gear roll on. Granted I weigh less, but his bike says it has about 30hp more than mine stock.
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195 HP....ya right...maybe for a split second. Ducati wildly over estimates their HP. BMW S1000RR, RSV4 and most other 1000cc Supersports will walk the 1199. Heck, I raced my buddy on his 1199 (tuned ECU, full Termi, air filter, and gearing), me on my 2013 Tuono (stock) and I pulled away from him both times during a second gear roll on. Granted I weigh less, but his bike says it has about 30hp more than mine stock.
Your buddy must be scared because that doesn't happen with someone capable
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Have you tracked it yet?
I will when I have time. I work at my own shop and we are super busy. I have worked every day for the last ??? months.
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195 HP....ya right...maybe for a split second. Ducati wildly over estimates their HP. BMW S1000RR, RSV4 and most other 1000cc Supersports will walk the 1199. Heck, I raced my buddy on his 1199 (tuned ECU, full Termi, air filter, and gearing), me on my 2013 Tuono (stock) and I pulled away from him both times during a second gear roll on. Granted I weigh less, but his bike says it has about 30hp more than mine stock.
Ill somewhat agree with this. Ducati inflates there HP on all their bikes compared to whats actually dynoed at the wheel. Aprilia/BMW are pretty close.

Having ridden all 3 of those, i think the Ducati is the sexiest, but the weakest in terms of power and other goodies.
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I really like the RSV4 and would have bought one, but I like V2 more. The deciding factor for me was ergos. I'm a big guy so I like the extra room of the RX. In terms of which is better, bang for the buck, may be the RSV4, Power and ease of use out of the box, EASILY the RX, 165rwhp I have yet to have anyone who claimed they had more power just walk away from me. Having ridden and riding with many 1199's, as a street bike RX every single time. No rev and wait for the power, no power spikes or hits its as close to the feel of an electric but with the topend run with anyone as well. Better ergos, better sound, more responsive, easier to set up suspension, almost no hear, longer range per tank, better midcorner response, better throttle response and the torque to make things happen at any pace and any gear. On the track, I'm not fast enough for it to really matter what I'm riding so the RX by virtue of it being easier to ride wins again. I personally couldn't live with the 1199. Ergos don't work and the engine has all the character of Honda. Might as well be an I4 with a V2 sound because that's how it feels.
As for looks. The best view of any motocycle is the view fromt the cockpit, I can't see the rest when I'm riding it.
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