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Old 06-25-2014, 11:06 AM   #1
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What's a cheap logical upgrade from a XR200

Hey guys, I have very limited Dirt experience. Currently I have an XR200. I typically do trails at sam houston and occasionally goof around on a basic MX track for fun.

Was thinking about upgrading. What would be a cheap logical upgrade from an XR200. I've tried them all 2 stroke 125, 250; 4 stroke 250s. I liked the 4 stroke 250s but they are pretty expensive.(Budget around 1-1.5k). I never felt comfortable on a two stroke, but maybe I just need to grow some ?

The thing is I don't go all that often, maybe 10-15times a year. Should I just keep the XR since I'm a noobie anyways and it won't matter? Lmk what you think.
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Old 06-25-2014, 11:22 AM   #2
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if you are just doing trail riding I would suggest the xr250 or for monster torque xr400. Xr250 will be in your range with nice ones going for 1200 or so. Use the extra money for a fork rework, and your good to go.
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The next logical step would be an XR201, but since they don't make one I suggest you man up and get a CR,YZ,KX, or SX 2 stroke 250. Those bikes are the and way cheaper to fix when they break. You can put flywheel weights on them to take some of the hit out, or leave them as is and enjoy the rush.
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KTM 200 XC or XC-W 300 XC or XC-W...I have the 300XC and I love it....enough power to smoke 450s but not to bad of a hit when the power band hits. I ride mine in the Forest and take it to Rio regularly.

but you budget would be the issue...you can find used ones under $3k
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friend had a kdx 220 i think it was. fun quick trail bike that can be had cheap
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I would go with a YZ 490, no better way to test your man hood, or intelligence then to swing a leg over that bad boy and beat it like it owes you money.

These things were widowmakers, I had one in highschool.

Talk about scarey fast, it wasn't tight in the corners, but man, open it up on a stright away and no one could catch you.

The powerband in that thing coming out of first gear and into second hit so hard, if it caught you off guard it was pretty common to near loop it.

I wish I could find another.

I had a guy come out to where we were riding, and he was running his mangina about how his 250R was faster, my bike was old, yadda yadda yadda.

I let him take it for a ride, he idn't last 5 minutes before the beast slammed him on his head.

This was a manly mans bike, if you didn't have chest hair before riding it, you did by the time you were done, the mere thought of a chick watching you tear it up on a YZ490, came with frantic thoughts ofa possible preganancy.

I put street tires on it and would run it out on rankin road, that's way before supermoto was cool. When the cops came, I could blast through the field to the other side and watch everyone else get tickets.
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I would go with a YZ 490, no better way to test your man hood, or intelligence then to swing a leg over that bad boy and beat it like it owes you money.

These things were widowmakers, I had one in highschool.

Talk about scarey fast, it wasn't tight in the corners, but man, open it up on a stright away and no one could catch you.

The powerband in that thing coming out of first gear and into second hit so hard, if it caught you off guard it was pretty common to near loop it.

I wish I could find another.

I had a guy come out to where we were riding, and he was running his mangina about how his 250R was faster, my bike was old, yadda yadda yadda.

I let him take it for a ride, he idn't last 5 minutes before the beast slammed him on his head.

This was a manly mans bike, if you didn't have chest hair before riding it, you did by the time you were done, the mere thought of a chick watching you tear it up on a YZ490, came with frantic thoughts ofa possible preganancy.

I put street tires on it and would run it out on rankin road, that's way before supermoto was cool. When the cops came, I could blast through the field to the other side and watch everyone else get tickets.
I bet you talk just to here your voice, what does any of this have to do with the op?

The ktm 200 is a great bike and cheap to rebuild. Two strokes are great in the woods.
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that crf 230 would be a good upgrade
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200XC. I'd suggest a two-stroke based on your OP. Sticking on the bike and riding what you have is another great option if it's working well for you.

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Old 06-25-2014, 04:09 PM   #12
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I would go with a YZ 490, no better way to test your man hood, or intelligence then to swing a leg over that bad boy and beat it like it owes you money.

These things were widowmakers, I had one in highschool.

Talk about scarey fast, it wasn't tight in the corners, but man, open it up on a stright away and no one could catch you.

The powerband in that thing coming out of first gear and into second hit so hard, if it caught you off guard it was pretty common to near loop it.

I wish I could find another.

I had a guy come out to where we were riding, and he was running his mangina about how his 250R was faster, my bike was old, yadda yadda yadda.

I let him take it for a ride, he idn't last 5 minutes before the beast slammed him on his head.

This was a manly mans bike, if you didn't have chest hair before riding it, you did by the time you were done, the mere thought of a chick watching you tear it up on a YZ490, came with frantic thoughts ofa possible preganancy.

I put street tires on it and would run it out on rankin road, that's way before supermoto was cool. When the cops came, I could blast through the field to the other side and watch everyone else get tickets.
Ive ridden a mid 80's YZ490, and it was fast but nothing ground breaking....I don't remember it running any better than a modern 2-stroke 250 with it being aircooled and non powervalved and all...

To the OP, I vote man up and pick up a 2 stroke 125 or a xr 250 or 400 if you can find one in that price range. there is nothing like the fun of a 2 stroke though
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Hey guys, I have very limited Dirt experience. Currently I have an XR200. I typically do trails at sam houston and occasionally goof around on a basic MX track for fun.

Was thinking about upgrading. What would be a cheap logical upgrade from an XR200. I've tried them all 2 stroke 125, 250; 4 stroke 250s. I liked the 4 stroke 250s but they are pretty expensive.(Budget around 1-1.5k). I never felt comfortable on a two stroke, but maybe I just need to grow some ?

The thing is I don't go all that often, maybe 10-15times a year. Should I just keep the XR since I'm a noobie anyways and it won't matter? Lmk what you think.
If your budget is $1,500 don't even bother with a four stroke. It will cost another $1,500 to rebuild it and you won't find many trustworthy ones for that much cash. Get a two stroke. You can get either a 125 or 250 for $1,500. I feel your pain though, what little time I've spent on two strokes I didn't like. I suppose you just get used to it and like it more and more as time goes on. Nobody takes a swig of scotch for the first time and likes it, but after a while it is all you want to drink.
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If your budget is $1,500 don't even bother with a four stroke. It will cost another $1,500 to rebuild it and you won't find many trustworthy ones for that much cash. Get a two stroke. You can get either a 125 or 250 for $1,500. I feel your pain though, what little time I've spent on two strokes I didn't like. I suppose you just get used to it and like it more and more as time goes on. Nobody takes a swig of scotch for the first time and likes it, but after a while it is all you want to drink.


I tend to agree with this.....

The kdx 220 I suggested is a two stroke trail bike like some of the KTM's so its quick without being a MX race bike. KTM's are awesome bikes if you can find one in your budget.

Seen nothing but problems from the Honda 230 & I'm a Honda guy at heart. I think that model is just a problem child & battery eater. They should have put a kick start on it.
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go get a WR450F.....2014, plate it, and buy a set of motard wheels.

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What do you feel is limiting you? Suspension, get it tuned or power, try a big bore. Cheaper than your other options, especially for the number of time you ride.
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For what you've described, this is the answer.
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If you're considering a 2 stroke for woods riding or just light riding and not MX, KDX's are good bikes for that. I've owned 3 of them and always dependable, light weight and a fun ride. Also easy to get parts for. Most of the 4 strokes over a 230 will be much higher priced. You can find some 125's and 250 2-strokes in your price range also.

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Wow thanks for all the replies so far. The question was, what I don't like about the XR200.

I've actually upgraded the front forks on the XR200 to longer travel forks plus caliper brakes. The open problem is it has a tiny 17 inch rim on the rear. I've ridden the CRF230; I literally felt it was the exact same bike as the XR200. I might have ridden the TTR225 (can't remember what i tried at a demo day) but I felt like it was the same as well.

They all felt like a kids bike... small, suspension was incredibly soft. And power was incredibly tame. The more I ride it the more I don't enjoy myself and feel like I'm not becoming a better rider.

With that in mind, I feel like I don't know what I'm doing? I'm just going out and "riding" but I don't feel like I get any faster or am learning anything. Are there any cheap dirtbike schools that will teach you some fundamentals? Basically the ridesmart for dirt? I feel like I need that maybe.
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