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Old 06-10-2014, 11:31 PM   #1
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For Those That Attended My Noob Ride...

1. If you were bored the entire time, do a track day if you haven't already.

2. If you weren't bored, practice what you learned and attend more rides until you ARE bored.

3. If you are worried about the traction of your tires, remember what I said about street tires at posted speeds. They will handle any debris you encounter as long as you don't brake, close the throttle or roll on the throttle. Maintain throttle, and you'll get through it.

For those dubious about the capabilities of street tires, there's a vid in the Events subforum (pics and vids subsection) of a guy running 1:50's at MSRH on street tires. That is quick. It's a level 3, borderline race pace on street tires. Trust your tires at posted speeds, then find the limits of those tires (and your abilities) at the track.
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Old 06-11-2014, 05:39 AM   #2
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It's more about the rider than it is about the tires. I ride with a Bridgestone T-30 (sport/touring) rear tire. It's plenty sticky. If you think your tires are slipping on every turn and you don't have a knee down, you're probably a noob.
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If you are riding erratically at the track trying to dodge tar snakes and concrete patches, you're probably a noob.

Agreed with the street tires having plenty of grip at posted speed limits. Learn to trust your tires and make small incremental changes.

Also +1 for going to the track. It's a ton of fun and shouldn't be scary or intimidating.
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Back in the day I did 610 loop in 18 min. On a 03 r6 with street tires. 140 thru turns on beltway 8 in the rain! Leading the pack two up thru the forest with guys one up behind me going into the grass over running corners trying to keep pace. I don't even try anymore on the street, nothing to prove n most everybody is slow. It's all rider, just need a decent machine.
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+1 pinball.

I'm sure everyone enjoyed the ride. Real cool of him to set it up and want to help others. Pinball has a ton of knowledge and I know most on here can benefit from riding with him
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It's more about the rider than it is about the tires. I ride with a Bridgestone T-30 (sport/touring) rear tire. It's plenty sticky. If you think your tires are slipping on every turn and you don't have a knee down, you're probably a noob.
I wasn't timing laps but getting a knee down on an old, worn out CBR1000rr with new Pilot Road 3 tires was no problem.

How do you like the T-30's? My VFR800 is needing some new shoes pretty soon (ok, now) and I have a BT23 rear and BT16 front right now.
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Old 06-11-2014, 08:09 PM   #7
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I wasn't timing laps but getting a knee down on an old, worn out CBR1000rr with new Pilot Road 3 tires was no problem.

How do you like the T-30's? My VFR800 is needing some new shoes pretty soon (ok, now) and I have a BT23 rear and BT16 front right now.
I'm buying a another T-30, that's how much I like them. Bridgestone is replacing the BT-023 with the T-30. I have an S20 on the front
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How many miles did you get out of it? You commute on them right?
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How many miles did you get out of it? You commute on them right?
Only spirited weekend rides now. Ride the HD for commuting. I've got over 4,000 miles on these tires. Have to check my odometer to be exact. Will have to replace the rear next week if I ride this weekend. Grip is really good. We've been hauling the mail on our rides
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