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Old 06-05-2014, 09:32 PM   #1
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2014 Four Cylinder Streetfighter Shootout

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Looks like the Aprilia came out on top...
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Looks like the Aprilia came out on top...
LOL! OUt of all the shootouts this one is clearly biased. The other dynos from other shootouts show the BMW with a clear 5HP+ lead.

Yeah lets race Tuono vsBMW. While you fill up for gas i'll be about 20 miles away LOLOLOL

I can almost guarantee by those shootout videos, they didnt have the BMW in dynamic PRO mode.
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LOL! OUt of all the shootouts this one is clearly biased. The other dynos from other shootouts show the BMW with a clear 5HP+ lead.

Yeah lets race Tuono vsBMW. While you fill up for gas i'll be about 20 miles away LOLOLOL

I can almost guarantee by those shootout videos, they didnt have the BMW in dynamic PRO mode.
LOL I'm afraid not. Looks like I'd be 10 miles ahead...
"This could be a contributing factor to why the BMW matched the Aprilia’s thirst for fuel at 34.4 mpg. Factor in its second-smallest fuel capacity (4.6-gallons) and it was the bike that depleted its tank the quickest in just 158 miles."
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Actually read the article they cycled through all the modes. They said they didn't make much of a difference. Of course it's clearly biased, because it didn't turn out the way you wanted. You've posted more than enough links to motorcycle-usa reviews, so to revert back at this point and say their publication is biased is a joke. If there is is one voice I would tend to trust throughout all these publications, it would be Adam Waheed. He knows his stuff.

"For casual riding at a reasonable pace the DDC works great—delivering a nice plush ride. But when you feel the need for speed—especially on irregular roads with camber and/or undulating terrain, the suspension can’t react fast enough to conditions—and when it does, it delivers an inorganic and disconnected feel. The suspension does offer a variety of modes including ‘Rain’, ‘Road’, ‘Dynamic’, and ‘Dynamic Pro’ however they didn’t make a much of a difference. What did, however, was selecting the extra passenger option which firmed up things considerably for sport riding but still left more to be desired in terms of feel and damping response."
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LOL I'm afraid not. Looks like I'd be 10 miles ahead...
"This could be a contributing factor to why the BMW matched the Aprilia’s thirst for fuel at 34.4 mpg. Factor in its second-smallest fuel capacity (4.6-gallons) and it was the bike that depleted its tank the quickest in just 158 miles."
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Actually read the article they cycled through all the modes. They said they didn't make much of a difference. Of course it's clearly biased, because it didn't turn out the way you wanted. You've posted more than enough links to motorcycle-usa reviews, so to revert back at this point and say their publication is biased is a joke. If there is is one voice I would tend to trust throughout all these publications, it would be Adam Waheed. He knows his stuff.

"For casual riding at a reasonable pace the DDC works great—delivering a nice plush ride. But when you feel the need for speed—especially on irregular roads with camber and/or undulating terrain, the suspension can’t react fast enough to conditions—and when it does, it delivers an inorganic and disconnected feel. The suspension does offer a variety of modes including ‘Rain’, ‘Road’, ‘Dynamic’, and ‘Dynamic Pro’ however they didn’t make a much of a difference. What did, however, was selecting the extra passenger option which firmed up things considerably for sport riding but still left more to be desired in terms of feel and damping response."

So who are you going to believe? 1 shoot vs 5 others?

or

The guy who owned BOTH bikes.

I had the race ECU on my tuono and my light came on at 70-80...ran out around 100-110 mark. My BMW i can get up to 140 thrasing it...180 if im cruising.

Horsepower wise? I know for a fact my BMW pulls more then my Tuono ever did. Also, hes a dumbass talking about the DDC>..he didnt mention what mode or suspension setting he had it set at. Its just like the Tuono, you can screw with the modes and the results are different.

http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/fe...rust_we_trust/

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" Like the RSV4 models we’ve tested, the Aprilia is one of the thirstier sportbikes around; our Tuono V4 R averaged a paltry 28 mpg."

I bought this bike knowing of that issue.
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So who are you going to believe? 1 shoot vs 5 others?

or

The guy who owned BOTH bikes.

I had the race ECU on my tuono and my light came on at 70-80...ran out around 100-110 mark. My BMW i can get up to 140 thrasing it...180 if im cruising.

Horsepower wise? I know for a fact my BMW pulls more then my Tuono ever did. Also, hes a dumbass talking about the DDC>..he didnt mention what mode or suspension setting he had it set at. Its just like the Tuono, you can screw with the modes and the results are different.

http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/fe...rust_we_trust/

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BMW gets about 35 MPG, Tuono gets 25 MPG. Im talking not riding like a too.
Here's another review too.
Like I said if you actually read the article, the BMW was quicker 0-60 and in the 1/4 mile. It also weighs over 20 pounds less than the Tuono, which could account for your perception of it having "more hp".
Not too sure what other 4 reviews you're referencing, but would love links to the full 4 articles. If it's a link to Sportrider, I'll pass since Motorcyclist and Sportrider are sister publications. Also, I'll take Waheed's opinion over yours. FWIW the 2012 Tuono had a smaller fuel tank as well as different engine mapping compared to the 2014 bike. Pretty sure Aprilia didn't design the RACE map around fuel economy either. Not an accurate comparison.
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Like I said if you actually read the article, the BMW was quicker 0-60 and in the 1/4 mile. It also weighs over 20 pounds less than the Tuono, which could account for your perception of it having "more hp".
Not too sure what other 4 reviews you're referencing, but would love links to the full 4 articles. If it's a link to Sportrider, I'll pass since Motorcyclist and Sportrider are sister publications. Also, I'll take Waheed's opinion over yours. FWIW the 2012 Tuono had a smaller fuel tank as well as different engine mapping compared to the 2014 bike. Pretty sure Aprilia didn't design the RACE map around fuel economy either. Not an accurate comparison.
Neon Samurai has owned and ridden both bikes. Its not a perception, a reality of beefier BMW bike. He loved the Tuono, but the Bimmer eclipses it.
P.S., I want a BMW too after riding his.
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yes, and clearly neon samurai also takes personal offense to any magazine that criticizes his bike of choice.

him vs. magazine...either way.....it's ALL anecdotal.
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yes, and clearly neon samurai also takes personal offense to any magazine that criticizes his bike of choice.

him vs. magazine...either way.....it's ALL anecdotal.
ALL anecdotal? WTF?

Have you ridden either?
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ALL anecdotal? WTF?

Have you ridden either?


looks like you missed the point man. no worries. next time your near an internet, look up what "anecdotal evidence" means.
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I have ridden both. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that the tuono is the better bike, I rode the bmw for a 500 mile round trip and the tuono for a similar mileage. The roads were varied through mountains, fast/slow roads and the tuono had the sound/character and handling that was marginally better than the bmw. The other MAJOR factor is a bike that has character and the tuono has it in abundance. The bmw felt like any other in line 4. It is a good bike (apart from looks), but in my opinion the tuono has an amazing engine with real character and soul. The Aprilia also has a better electronics package. The ddc on the bmw doesn't really cut it for me and heated grips on a super naked!!
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I have ridden both. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that the tuono is the better bike, I rode the bmw for a 500 mile round trip and the tuono for a similar mileage. The roads were varied through mountains, fast/slow roads and the tuono had the sound/character and handling that was marginally better than the bmw. The other MAJOR factor is a bike that has character and the tuono has it in abundance. The bmw felt like any other in line 4. It is a good bike (apart from looks), but in my opinion the tuono has an amazing engine with real character and soul. The Aprilia also has a better electronics package. The ddc on the bmw doesn't really cut it for me and heated grips on a super naked!!
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Heated grips and Cruise control. Yeah I'll take that on my trip around the country. I wouldnt trust a Tuono with its limited dealer support to ride around the country.
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PS: I never said the Tuono was a BAD bike. Its a great bike. It just has a few pitfalls where i think the BMW makes up for it. Most of the guys who ride to Tuono in the tests are riding it at the track, well yeah its great..sounds great...feels great there. But a naked isnt meant for the track, its meant for the street. Thats why they have a RSV4 and s1000RR

But for all around, BMW has more stuff.
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Obviously they limited this to 4 cylinder nakeds because they knew they Ducati Streetfighter would kick their assess...
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I am waiting for Ducati to come out with a Streetfighter with the 1198 engine in it.
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Heated grips and Cruise control. Yeah I'll take that on my trip around the country. I wouldnt trust a Tuono with its limited dealer support to ride around the country.
This is my concern with Aprilia as well. You have HSBK and AF1 racing in Austin. Am I missing one as far as local is concerned?
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