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Old 05-07-2007, 09:16 PM   #1
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Gearing in corners?

yes im a pre-noob to racing. only a few track days ive done. but how do you know or how can you tell what gear works for what corners? rpms im guessing are likely a big hint. or is it just learning the track?
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Old 05-07-2007, 09:18 PM   #2
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or is it just learning the track?
My guess is learning the track and TIRES/Tire pressure...........
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Old 05-07-2007, 09:20 PM   #3
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the faster you get your gear selection changes. you need to stay right before the powerband
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Old 05-07-2007, 09:23 PM   #4
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Gearing usually becomes a compromise depending on the track.
Typically I want to gear the bike where we don't need to shift mid corner if possible and also to get a good drive going into as well as out of the corner.
At high speed tracks like TWS (Texas World Speedway) I like to gear it where we're just pulling redline in 6th down at the end of the front straight going into T1.
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Old 05-07-2007, 09:25 PM   #5
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And as Chris said, what works for a novice doesn't work for someone that's faster.
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you need an adjustable powerband, that way you can use different setups for various tracks:

http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main...products_id=30
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So, for example you always take turn 1 at TWS (Texas World Speedway) in the same gear? Say 4th, unless of course it's raining or crowded?
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Tape over your speedometer and tach to only show your usable RPMs and keep it in that range. Of course this is the last thing you need to work on if you have only been to the track a few times. Body position, throttle control, lines and braking should be first on the list.
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Body position, throttle control, lines and braking should be first on the list.
and becoming comfy with your new environment.
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and becoming comfy with your new environment.
Definetly and issue I am currently having. :eh:
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yes im a pre-noob to racing. only a few track days ive done. but how do you know or how can you tell what gear works for what corners? rpms im guessing are likely a big hint. or is it just learning the track?
I think I know what you are talking about because I have the same problem sometimes and I am not talking about powerbands but plain and simple shifting. I try some corners in 2nd gear and others in 3rd and on the VFR, I can tell a huge difference when I have the wrong versus the right gear because it determines how choppy or how smooth I make that corner.

I think trying to continue to learn your bike and the track is the best way to go. My first trackday on TWS (Texas World Speedway), I managed to do in 3rd gear the entire time; at least the first two-three sessions. I was concentrating on being smooth more than anything. At MSR-H, I shifted a lot more but had a few choppy turns. I guess practise makes perfect. Also, find someone that has the same bike as yours and is not exactly hauling but closer to your level of experience. Have them help you with the gear selection as well. It helped me a great deal when I had absolutely no clue.
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Grab 5th at the transition from the banking and hold that WOT through turn two as you scrub off speed in the corner.We gear our bikes to redline 6th at the transition of the banking at TWS (Texas World Speedway) in to turn 1 like Patrick.
I'd have to change the gearing a lot to do that on either bike............right now with stock gearing I MIGHT redline 5th.
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Definetly and issue I am currently having. :eh:
Really?
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Really?
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I do have a few new goodies that will hopefully help. :icon_bigg
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Need seat time on the new ride.
Gotcha..........yeah, I guess you really haven't had it out much yet.
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Noctem, your RPM's are going to be higher in the corner due to the wheelbase getting 'shorter' as the bike is leaned over. As you're exiting the corner they will start to descrease. This works out good because you'll be on the gas and increasing the RPM's anyway. Select a gear that will keep you under redline in the turn but will keep you in the powerband for the corner exit (or whenever you start rolling on).
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You can always grab a gear on the exit as well. You will figure it out. Just go ride your bike.
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just go around one gear higher than you think you can take and then start droping one if needed, that worked for me to be on the safe side since i don't have a slipper clutch and don't like that tail moving to the right, once confortable letting the rear move to the right is not that bad.
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