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Old 09-06-2007, 01:26 AM   #61
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my experience with crashing is that you can talk/walk yourself through it 100 times but in real life when it happens, it happens so fast there isn't time to think about your hands or rolling or anything. youre like "save it save it save it" and youre thinknig about how you can save this, then the next thing you know you hit the ground and it feels like getting hit by a car, basically. you'll probably roll a little bit if you've got any speed at all gathered up, its really hard not to... the only way to stop yourself would be to stick our your limbs, which in a roll is prolly a good way to break em. If you can actually think during the slide (ie, if youre still sliding and your mind is clear enough to think about what to do) put your weight whereever you have the most armor... knuckles of gloves, boots, plastic elbow armor. whatever.

IMO the best way to plan through the crash is to dress for the crash. usually wearing gear won't cut it. I ALWAYS wear gear, and my one real bad lay down I was wearing T shirt and jeans and a helmet and gloves... I got tore up a bit, but if I hadn't had on helmet and gloves I would have been in the hospital for sure.
I usually keep my wallet and cell phone in a little triple tree bag. well the night I layed it down I landed on my chest and they were in my front pockets of my jeans...thankfully my krazr didn't break, but I still have big knots and dark tissue left over from bruises where my money clip hit my left leg and my cell phone my right leg, and my lay down was a long time ago.

My nike's wore through (wasn't wearing my boots) and I banged up my left ankle real bad (still is sore).

basically if I would have had my coat and boots on I would have prolly had no damage to me. now I have real nasty scars on my arms and my legs are still healing.
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Old 09-06-2007, 01:28 AM   #62
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as previously stated .. like 3 months ago when this thread was made.. I will totally give crashing lessons to anyone that wants them. and you can use my stunt bike. costs can be discussed for this class im PMs
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12 years of Downhill snow skiing all over the world and I still can't answer this question for you. Just happy I'm still alive but snow is easier to crash in than concrete or dirt. Everyone learns differently of course with SPEED & Gravity it take time. Always rotate the body towards your back facing the pavement trying to keep you arms and legs up. Back protectors are a must. Go water sking and wear the back protector, helmet and have the boat run 50-100mph. Let go of the rope as many times until you develop you own style.

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What helps on the fall is losing all the excess weight. If you are light as a feather, you will land like one. Too much weight will guaranteed broken bones.
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So your saying the more you weight the harder you'll hit the ground?

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What helps on the fall is losing all the excess weight. If you are light as a feather, you will land like one. Too much weight will guaranteed broken bones.
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So your saying the more you weight the harder you'll hit the ground?


Haven't you heard the bigger they are the harder they fall?
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I like to wrap myself in bubble wrap before I go for a ride.
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Haven't you heard the bigger they are the harder they fall?
Very true. There's a big difference between a 5'-8" 165# guy in good physical shape falling, compared to a 5'-8" 225# guy who's overweight and out of shape falling hard off a laydown. Then again, the same can be said when comparing the former to a 5'-8" 125# bony guy falling off at speed... chances are he'll break some bones, too!!

So it just comes down to... the better physical shape and condition you're in, the better you'll fare in a crash.
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Very true. There's a big difference between a 5'-8" 165# guy in good physical shape falling, compared to a 5'-8" 225# guy who's overweight and out of shape falling hard off a laydown. Then again, the same can be said when comparing the former to a 5'-8" 125# bony guy falling off at speed... chances are he'll break some bones, too!!

So it just comes down to... the better physical shape and condition you're in, the better you'll fare in a crash.
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just watch you tube on motorcycle wrecks/accidents where its ama and moto gp racers wrecking... and then watch the ones on the street. ha who ever gets up sooner.. crash like them
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BTW, with all this said, it's not so much how to fall and position your body when or if you do crash in the streets. That's really the least of your worries. It's the other things you have to worry about... like concrete curbs, light poles, trees, other vehicles, etc. Those are the things that will really cause some serious bodily damage if your unlucky enough to have any of those in your line of trajectory, not so much the fall itself.
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BTW, with all this said, it's not so much how to fall and position your body when or if you do crash in the streets. That's really the least of your worries. It's the other things you have to worry about... like concrete curbs, light poles, trees, other vehicles, etc. Those are the things that will really cause some serious bodily damage if your unlucky enough to have any of those in your line of trajectory, not so much the fall itself.
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who said anything about speeding on the street? why does it always come down to Track vs Street? I dont hate on track guys or Street Guys or guys that ride bicycles in the street. I dont understand how your comment is relavent. No one is asking how to plan a crash at 186mph on the street lets get back on topic and leave the track vs street debate on a different thread

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who said anything about speeding on the street? why does it always come down to Track vs Street? I dont hate on track guys or Street Guys or guys that ride bicycles in the street. I dont understand how your comment is relavent. No one is asking how to plan a crash at 186mph on the street lets get back on topic and leave the track vs street debate on a different thread
because you have a lot more runoff on the track. it's plain and simple to see that it is safer to crash while attempting to "go fast" or even "go slow" on the track vs. the street.

if you crash on the street, there are backslopes of ditches, curbs, poles, trees, fire hydrants, cars and other vehicles, mailboxes, and this list can go on and on. I doubt he was saying track people are better, or even trying to stir up a debate.
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Hmmm perhaps you did not see the seems like a lot of people wreck at the track. Now explain to me this runoff for these folks. Seems to me if your bike falls while you are in your driveway on the street or the track (with the runoff) its going to hurt. And each time you ride you face this risk dont matter if its on the street the track the backroads at a dealership on their slippery floors. so I say falling is all the same whereever you go so get over it.

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because you have a lot more runoff on the track. it's plain and simple to see that it is safer to crash while attempting to "go fast" or even "go slow" on the track vs. the street.

if you crash on the street, there are backslopes of ditches, curbs, poles, trees, fire hydrants, cars and other vehicles, mailboxes, and this list can go on and on. I doubt he was saying track people are better, or even trying to stir up a debate.
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Hmmm perhaps you did not see the seems like a lot of people wreck at the track. Now explain to me this runoff for these folks. Seems to me if your bike falls while you are in your driveway on the street or the track (with the runoff) its going to hurt. And each time you ride you face this risk dont matter if its on the street the track the backroads at a dealership on their slippery floors. so I say falling is all the same whereever you go so get over it.

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You're definitely wrong about that last sentence. Its not the fall that hurts, its the impact. The falling can happen at anytime whether you're on street or track, that's definitely true and can't be denied. But would you rather slide and tumble and roll till you come to a stop? or would you rather slide and get stopped by slamming into a sidewalk or post or anyone of the things that you can slam into out on the street? If anyone still thinks it makes no difference, they're not very bright
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who said anything about speeding on the street? why does it always come down to Track vs Street? I dont hate on track guys or Street Guys or guys that ride bicycles in the street. I dont understand how your comment is relavent. No one is asking how to plan a crash at 186mph on the street lets get back on topic and leave the track vs street debate on a different thread
At this speed on the street crashing will guaranteed to plan for a funeral.

Any suggestion on your part on falling besides nick picking what was said?
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