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Old 05-15-2014, 07:50 AM   #61
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I just buy a new helmet every year, because i like change and trying new brands. 500-600 isnt a lot of money once a year IMO.
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I have the low and high end Star bell helmet. One is way lighter with more bells and whistles. DOnt want to test the rest.
Nor am I saying you necessarily should, but if you think their $600 helmet is a safe helmet, why would you assume they'd make their $150 helmet less safe. There's a market at each price point, but I don't believe that a $60,000 Infiniti is necessarily more safe than a $25,000 Nissan, it's just got on a fancier suit. I think it's the same thing with a lot of these helmets.

Yeah, if you're going to be racing or track riding and routinely seeing over 150 mph, that ultra-light helmet they spent dozens of hours wind-tunnel testing will probably have features that the average street rider doesn't need. Likewise, if you're spending most of your time on the bike during sunrise/sunset times, features like an integral sun shade that raise the helmet's overall weight might be more beneficial.

The only difference between my $200 Joe Rocket helmets (both bought when their graphic was discontinued for ~$75) and the $500 version they make is that mine have a fiberglass composite shell vs. the ultra-light carbon fiber. Does that make mine less safe? All of the impact absorbing materials are identical, the vents are identical...

I maintain that the MOST IMPORTANT feature of a helmet is that it is worn. Find one that fits you well, has the features you think you need (and are willing to pay for), and wear the thing. I always read about guys dying in crashes "might have survived if a helmet was worn", but I don't think I've seen yet "might have survived if a more expensive helmet was worn" (I'm not including novelty helmets here).
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Old 05-15-2014, 01:43 PM   #63
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Nor am I saying you necessarily should, but if you think their $600 helmet is a safe helmet, why would you assume they'd make their $150 helmet less safe. There's a market at each price point, but I don't believe that a $60,000 Infiniti is necessarily more safe than a $25,000 Nissan, it's just got on a fancier suit. I think it's the same thing with a lot of these helmets.

Yeah, if you're going to be racing or track riding and routinely seeing over 150 mph, that ultra-light helmet they spent dozens of hours wind-tunnel testing will probably have features that the average street rider doesn't need. Likewise, if you're spending most of your time on the bike during sunrise/sunset times, features like an integral sun shade that raise the helmet's overall weight might be more beneficial.

The only difference between my $200 Joe Rocket helmets (both bought when their graphic was discontinued for ~$75) and the $500 version they make is that mine have a fiberglass composite shell vs. the ultra-light carbon fiber. Does that make mine less safe? All of the impact absorbing materials are identical, the vents are identical...

I maintain that the MOST IMPORTANT feature of a helmet is that it is worn. Find one that fits you well, has the features you think you need (and are willing to pay for), and wear the thing. I always read about guys dying in crashes "might have survived if a helmet was worn", but I don't think I've seen yet "might have survived if a more expensive helmet was worn" (I'm not including novelty helmets here).
Probably, who knows. Cant say there isnt any data done on that. Maybe a future stat they could record. Its mostly the inner lining and the foam which dampens the impact..the shell is mostly structure and weight. I had some old HJC helmets that are 8 years old and i can crumble the foam lining in them now. Ive never wore a helmet over 2 years so i can say i crashed in one, i just have them sitting in my garage.

ive given away a few helmets too.
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Even with the Arai RX-Q, the plain black helmet is at a popular online retailer "on sale" right now for $531. The same helmet in any of the fancy paint schemes is $650 (MSRP ~$720). Does the paint add $120 (nearly 25% of the plain helmet's price) of value to the helmet? This is one of the reasons that I think talking about helmets based on price-point alone is sketchy. However, the RX-Q "Vibe" is currently on sale for $400, makes me think perhaps it's a good deal, if they fit me well.
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I took my time and waited and watching and making offers ,

I finally , after 3 months of being patient was able to buy myself a Shoei RF-1100 with some designs , not plain , brand new , for 245.00 to my door .

Not Bad , will be able to see how much better , or not , than the HJC's I've been wearing from the start , along with Fly , and a few other Midline priced Helmets .
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Even with the Arai RX-Q, the plain black helmet is at a popular online retailer "on sale" right now for $531. The same helmet in any of the fancy paint schemes is $650 (MSRP ~$720). Does the paint add $120 (nearly 25% of the plain helmet's price) of value to the helmet? This is one of the reasons that I think talking about helmets based on price-point alone is sketchy. However, the RX-Q "Vibe" is currently on sale for $400, makes me think perhaps it's a good deal, if they fit me well.
People pay hundreds of dollars on carbon fibre blingblings. Why even question why other folks buy stuff for their motorcycles? Why buy the motorcycle in the first place? The whole enterprise is illogical to start.

Why??!! Because it makes the swinging happy.

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People pay hundreds of dollars on carbon fibre blingblings. Why even question why other folks buy stuff for their motorcycles? Why buy the motorcycle in the first place? The whole enterprise is illogical to start.

Why??!! Because it makes the swinging happy.

Just let it be... my friend.
Heh thats some truth there!
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