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Old 05-14-2014, 10:13 AM   #41
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Minimum standards are a wonderful thing. If the min is fine for your head, more power too ya

Not saying "x" brand is a min lid, but you can get bell helmets for $50 @ Wal-Mart why spend so much on a scorpion, lol
Bell also makes $600+ helmets. Do you think the level of safety is that much lower on their low-end helmets (full face, not brain buckets), or perhaps just fewer bells/whistles/less wind-tunnel testing expense/etc?
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Crash worthiness is important to safety.

So is air flow on a hot & humid Houston summer day. Cooking your noodles will get you killed in more ways than one.

So is a convenient integral flip sun shade or photochromatic shield. Afternoon commute home towards Katy on I-10 staring into the arc welder also can get your killed. So is getting caught riding at night with a dark tinted shield.

So is a good pinlock system on a cold morning ride. Faceshield fogging up will get you kill before your helmet hits the ground.

To me, all that makes these additional features and daily usability of a helmet worth paying premium. Your value judgement may vary.
I can get all of that in an HJC on clearance for $75. Your point?
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Dbucks bike wasn't $10k, kekeke

Neither is my current bike, lid cost 1/3 the price of the bike, lol
and i finance nothing either...b/c I'm frugal and buy I can afford. crazy cheap logic.
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Lmao yep. One of those topics.
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Icon. I like the fit of Shoei and Im not tripping over the cost. I had a HJC once. I wore it for a week, gave it away, and then went back to Shoei
I tend to like how the Scorpion, HJC, Shoei, etc. fit better than Icon, bit I was wearing an Icon when I wrecked and I can say it worked for me. That being said, it has been retired now and all I own now are Scorpions. Haven't had to try them out yet.
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and i finance nothing either...b/c I'm frugal and buy I can afford. crazy cheap logic.
I guess you dont own a business or a house...
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I can get all of that in an HJC on clearance for $75. Your point?
If you are happy with it, that's all that matters.

For me, these features are not a binary value - HAVE or NOT HAVE. Just about every helmet has vents, but they all flow differently - some work far better than others.

Some integral sun visor operate better than others, and some have more distortion than others. I bought some Bell helmets on clearance for my kids, for the occasions when I take them on putt-putt rides around the neighborhood. These also have built-in sun visor, but working the thing is the clunkiest lever mechanism ever. My kids wear them maybe a couple of times (~15min each time) a year, so I sure as heck was not gonna sink $500 per lid.

Do I trust my kids' precious noodles to these cheapie lids? Absolutely. Would I buy one for myself to wear every single day? Nope. I wear mine much more often and in all kinds of weather and lighting conditions. I want me some pampering with a nice lid.
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My helmet costs more than yours, that means it's better. If you don't wear one like mine then you don't care about your brain. Dumass.
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I guess you dont own a business or a house...
no need for a contest, but I own 2 of them. You have your priorities, I have mine. My point is, you don't need a high dollar helmet to protect your noggin'. My work is done here.
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You won't "know" how good it is till you need it.
But, as no two "real world" crashes are the same, how are you really going to quantify how well a helmet protects you unless there's an obvious failure due to poor design or defect?

This is exactly why we have standards in place, and until "they" can come out with some type of crash ratings system (similar to the IIHS ratings) to compare apples-to-apples, passing standards is what we've got. Beyond that, I believe it mostly comes down to comfort (weight, ventilation) and features (built-in shade or bluetooth, refinement of materials).
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Clearance helmets are the best way to get the most value. A helmet could be on the shelf at full retail one day, then on Ebay for half price the next because a particular graphic was discontinued. I've sold Snell approved HJC's that retail for $149.99 on ebay for $50.
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Cheap logic:


Spends 10k on Motorcycle.

Wont spend more then $200 on helmet to prevent a slew of injuries.
Bell vortex helmet cost $180 msrp or cheaper. It's both SNELL and DOT approved.
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Honey badgers are actually my fav animals. Watched many documentaries on them. They're one tough sons of . Anyways, I own a agv k3, bell vortex, agv grid, hjc rpha-10, bell arrow, shoei rf1100 diabolic feud, but the shoei sucked amongst all these for it's price tag. Bobble head looking helmet - non ventilating-heavy make my neck hurt- overrated $500 juggernaut helmet. My agv brands outshines the mainstream shoei everyday. Lemme go grab a beer. I'll be right back to continue writi.........
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Bell also makes $600+ helmets. Do you think the level of safety is that much lower on their low-end helmets (full face, not brain buckets), or perhaps just fewer bells/whistles/less wind-tunnel testing expense/etc?
I have the low and high end Star bell helmet. One is way lighter with more bells and whistles. DOnt want to test the rest.
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Soumy's are pretty sick too
I thought so too.. so I bought one and it sucks .. worst helmey I ever had. The fit is right about 85% until my right hand wants to shake me off the bike, by then it is like if I just got hit in the mouth, but wait it fits snug... wtf? I had hjc's always, should had stuck with those..
After trying the arai's I'm sold. Along with a certain shoei model I'm trying to decide which one to get now.
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Soumy's are pretty sick too
I was fixing to bring them up. I did love the way mine fit. I just didnt like the way at felt past 170.
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