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Old 05-05-2007, 09:45 AM   #1
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diff. between supermoto & dual sports?

Like, I know dual sports are basically street legal trail bikes and supermotos are kinda like MX bikes with street wheels/tires, but is there any other differences suspension wise or motor wise that differenciate the two.
I've been wanting a trail bike for a while, but I'd like to get one that I can motard once in a while also.

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and I'm about 5'10, 180 lbs., what would be a good size to start on, preferably a honda. I've only ridden dirt bikes on occasion, and they were all 125's or smaller.
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from my little bit of experience.. the dual sports seem tuned down alittle.. may be bc of street legalizing restriction.. IDK.. and alittle shorter seat height. and squishier suspension. only other thing i noticed was the cosmetics (crf450 compared to honda 450?(pretty sure it was a 450) dual sport)
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usually the brakes are totally different.
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soo I'm wondering if it would be easier to get a dual sport and convert to supermoto, or a street legal supermoto with some extra's for trail riding.
Just wondering if the supermoto's are as rugged as a full blown dual sport out on the trails.
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Okay in my opinion (only my opinion) getting a full blown race offroad bike and making it road ready is the best of all worlds. You've got a fast, light weight, rugged bike that can take all the abuse of anything offroad or with the change or tires/wheels and sprockets you're ready for just about anything on the road.

It takes me right at an hour to go from full offroad to full onroad.

Disadvantages of this type bike is this; Long freeway rides (like 300 mi.) get pretty uncomfortable but is doable, I've done it several times. Really tight woods trail riding stuff like up at Sam Houston National Forest will tire you pretty quick because the bike is pretty heavy, but again very doable. MX track is not really what its cut out for but its fun also.

I would not go below a 450 in size if you want to be on the road much, are really freeway. Just city streets is fine. For riding in Houston I think 600 up is best.

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Old 05-05-2007, 02:41 PM   #6
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i dunno but after looking at them and watching the videos i think i want one....
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That's what I'm talking about! That's why I asked to have this lounge opened up . That's what a lot of people start saying once they've seen them. That's what I did after the first Supermoto race I saw where Jeff Ward just kicked .
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yea i want a bike i can abuse the $hit out of
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My supermoto doesn't have the big brakes, as NO ONE MAKES THEM for my submodel :BangHead: but if anyone wants to take my girl for a spin, i'll her up. just let me know. Whatever it takes to get people interested!
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but if anyone wants to take my girl for a spin, i'll her up. just let me know. Whatever it takes to get people interested!
that's not what she said when I talked to her last, but i think she was studying...:laughing6

dude, i'd love to blast around on that thing...next time your up this way or i'm down that way we'll have to meet up
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I thought about that bike for a long time to get into the scene, but people kept saying it would get boring quick compared some of the upper end/faster bikes (crf, ktm, etc). I still think it would be fun to run around on and get started. Anyway, this is an interesting thread, keep going...
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I thought about that bike for a long time to get into the scene, but people kept saying it would get boring quick compared some of the upper end/faster bikes (crf, ktm, etc). I still think it would be fun to run around on and get started. Anyway, this is an interesting thread, keep going...
I would ride the out of a DRZ on the street. Of course it is probably a bad idea for me because I could easily see myself making new routes home to avoid traffic. :laughing6
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And what is wrong with that? :icon_bigg
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The supermotos on the street are gonna be heavy, like mine weighs almost as much as my R1 (~340 vs ~380). and it has ~130 less HP, so you are always better off getting the bigger bore bike. the 400's are fun, but for houston roads where 75 is a necessity, the 400 pushes the lower end of the envelope. in a small town where 55 is tops, then it's a different story. I went back and forth before i got mine. My bike is a dual-sport from the factory. it's got all that emissions on it, but otherwise it is very similar to the trails bikes like the xr650 and especially the xr600. All i've really done is rims and spokes, gearing, and de-restriction. i'm waiting for someone to come out with a big-brake kit that is not 400$ for a rotor and a bracket. XR650L's have a different rotor bolt pattern than others, unfortunately. As i said before, if i had to do it again, i would get a CRF450 or a YZ450F and do wheels and gearing, play with some power mods and brakes. The street-legal conversion stuff is easy to find from companies that sell it all as a kit (BajaDesigns to name one). It's a Helluva lot of fun!



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Don't think the ditch is legal. Atleast that is what I was informed of when I had a jacked up truck. :laughing6
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yeah it's even better when the 4x4's try to follow you and get stuck
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