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Old 05-06-2014, 02:08 PM   #1
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nail in tire again!

when washing and inspecting bike, I pulled out a small nail in my tire yesterday. It's half the diameter of a regular pencil lead. It's in the center compound of my Michelin PP3 rear tire. I called Motorcycles Unlimited and they said no, due to liability reasons and HOPD said they have to look at it first?? They're 52miles away!! Mancuso said 80bucks . Wtf A new tire is close to their repair price. This is the 2nd time this is happening within 12months and I'm not wasting this tire again. It has 80% thread left. Dammit and I wanted to do track this weekend.

ANY HELP? i'll bring the wheel/tire with me and i'll pay you and I know about the liability . Business' gimmick to buy a new tire from them. I'm a mile from west oaks mall. Westside of town.
I have a portable plug-in air pump. I prefer a patch, but may settle for a plug if nobody can help with a patch or tell me where to patch it. Thanks
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when washing and inspecting bike, I pulled out a small nail in my tire yesterday. It's half the diameter of a regular pencil lead. It's in the center compound of my Michelin PP3 rear tire. I called Motorcycles Unlimited and they said no, due to liability reasons and HOPD said they have to look at it first?? They're 52miles away!! Mancuso said 80bucks . Wtf A new tire is close to their repair price. This is the 2nd time this is happening within 12months and I'm not wasting this tire again. It has 80% thread left. Dammit and I wanted to do track this weekend.

ANY HELP? i'll bring the wheel/tire with me and i'll pay you and I know about the liability . Business' gimmick to buy a new tire from them. I'm a mile from west oaks mall. Westside of town.
I have a portable plug-in air pump. I prefer a patch, but may settle for a plug if nobody can help with a patch or tell me where to patch it. Thanks
Having dealt with Patrick at Motorcycles Unlimited, and knowing Tony at HOPD has a solid reputation, I do believe you're fairly wrong about your assertion that not wanting to patch your tire is a gimmick. They are covering their as a business, and - heaven forbid - concerned about a rider on a patch tire.
Why not just patch it yourself if you have all the answers?
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Old 05-06-2014, 02:29 PM   #3
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just plug it and fill it with slime.
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F Mancuso in the with their plug kit.

Alen with woopies cycles pluged mine for free once. He is on the west side now I think.

http://www.whoopiecycles.com/

It's actually pretty easy. Find some vids on youtube on how to do it. The kit cost about $5 or $10 and everyone should have one.

That being said I have known a few people who rode the out of plugged tires.

Personally, I'm pretty sure I would go down if a plug failed on a turn. So, I choose not to ride on pluged tires.
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I plugged my own tire and it works just fine so far about 500 miles and no problems just the plug they sell at auto zone for 6 dollars
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Having dealt with Patrick at Motorcycles Unlimited, and knowing Tony at HOPD has a solid reputation, I do believe you're fairly wrong about your assertion that not wanting to patch your tire is a gimmick. They are covering their as a business, and - heaven forbid - concerned about a rider on a patch tire.
Why not just patch it yourself if you have all the answers?
Covering their ? Then why is mancuso and HOPD agreeing to do it?
And have all the answers??? If I did, I won't be posting a thread seeking help. No need to critique my post ; lead me in the right direction, or move on and let others post valuable responses.
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buy a 5 dollar plug kit....it's a rear tire. I'd be more concerned with a front tire.
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While I have had a tire plugged AND patched and it was just fine, I know a lot of business' that won't do it and I don't blame them one bit. And technically HOP didn't say they would do it, they said they would have to LOOK at it first.
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While I have had a tire plugged AND patched and it was just fine, I know a lot of business' that won't do it and I don't blame them one bit. And technically HOP didn't say they would do it, they said they would have to LOOK at it first.
they said they would if it's center compound. They also say they have to see it for the hole size and cos some people don't know what center compound is, or center of tire, or they got a single compound tire. It's berely a 1mm hole. I never knew it went thru until I pulled it out and heard air leaks (FLIPS TABLE OVER in rage) In a pp3, you can see where the compounds meet. They're still too far from me regardless.

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they said they would if it's center compound. They just say they have to see it cos some people don't know what center compound is, or center of tire, or they got a single compound tire. In a pp3, you can see where the compounds meet. They're still too far from me regardless.

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Depends on who is asking

And yea, IF they are to be plugged it needs to be in the middle.
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Depends on who is asking

And yea, IF they are to be plugged it needs to be in the middle.
you done track with a plugged tire??
Just for lean angles stability and trust.
That's the only reason I wanna patch it, I woulda plugged it all day. I know someone who did burnouts on plugs and lasted till tire thread gone after a season lol
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you done track with a plugged tire??
Just for lean angles stability and trust.
That's the only reason I wanna patch it, I woulda plugged it all day. I know someone who did burnouts on plugs and lasted till tire thread gone after a season lol
Last time I rode with a plugged tire I made minimum wage and didn't know what track was....


I wouldn't suggest doing a track day on a plugged tire. But that's just me. I'm not a tire expert.....or any other kind of expert for that matter
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Last time I rode with a plugged tire I made minimum wage and didn't know what track was....


I wouldn't suggest doing a track day on a plugged tire. But that's just me. I'm not a tire expert.....or any other kind of expert for that matter
no way I'm throwing this tire away again. last one had less than 1k miles and i sucked it up and bought a new one.

what If I go buy another new one now from cyclegear and catch another nail when riding back home? I've seen it happen LMAO
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no way I'm throwing this tire away again. last one had less than 1k miles and i sucked it up and bought a new one.

what If I go buy another new one now from cyclegear and catch another nail when riding back home? I've seen it happen LMAO
i've done a TD with a plug in rear tire (I didn't notice a difference in regards to anything)....not when I was making minimum wage, but close to it. Would I recommend it? Probably not, but I can't say to throw it away either. As previously stated, I'd be more concerned with throwing a plug if on the front tire.
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Covering their ? Then why is mancuso and HOPD agreeing to do it?
And have all the answers??? If I did, I won't be posting a thread seeking help. No need to critique my post ; lead me in the right direction, or move on and let others post valuable responses.
Not to get in a match with you, but we're neither trying to upsell you a tire or covering our .
My garage liability insurance specifically forbids me from repairing tires, period.

As far as upselling you, if you recall I DIDN'T try to sell you a tire.
Matter of fact after I asked you what tire it was and where on the tire it had a nail I specifically advised you to go to O'Reilly and buy a plug kit for $5 and do it yourself.

I've personally run plugged tires with no issues, but as far as the shop is concerned I'm not willing to risk my liability insurance for a $20 repair.
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There's no guarantees in life. Maybe it'll fail, maybe it won't.
Who's to say a new tire won't fail?
If it was me, I'd plug it. If you want the reassurance, buy a new tire.

Only you can decide. If it's opinions you want, like I said, I'd plug it.
I've plugged many tires over the 30 years I've been riding, never had an issue...
Never even heard of an issue, but I suppose it can happen.
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Plug it and be on your way! Caught a nail leaving Pensacola on the way back to Houston, it was a Sunday with no other options. I plugged it and rode the tire till it was worn out. It'll be fine
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Not to get in a match with you, but we're neither trying to upsell you a tire or covering our .
My garage liability insurance specifically forbids me from repairing tires, period.

As far as upselling you, if you recall I DIDN'T try to sell you a tire.
Matter of fact after I asked you what tire it was and where on the tire it had a nail I specifically advised you to go to O'Reilly and buy a plug kit for $5 and do it yourself.

I've personally run plugged tires with no issues, but as far as the shop is concerned I'm not willing to risk my liability insurance for a $20 repair.
hey there kind Sir. thanks for your response and I completely understand these processes (I worked as quality assurance in a diesel/hydraulic setting in the corps). however, there's always a loophole way to help a rider out, such as doing the work in garage at home, or after business hrs if possible. I'll just wait till saturday and If no help, I'll plug it or take it to a mexican shop that mounted both my tires for 15bucks but I gotta contact my long lost friend for their address again since idk and been there once.

there's that one experienced guy on this forum that can patch a tire in minutes in his garage, I'm just waiting for them to see this thread.

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If you buy a tire from cycle gear and get a nail in it they replace the tire or give you a discount depending on how much tread is left.
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I'm curious, several times you've mentioned patching instead of plugging.
Why is that? You can plug it in 5 minutes and be done, without all the hassle of demounting and remounting.
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