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Old 05-04-2007, 12:57 PM   #1
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5 U.S. Soldiers Reported Killed in Iraq

BAGHDAD (AP) - American forces broke up a Shiite militant cell believed to be smuggling an armor-piercing Iranian weapon responsible for killing an increasing number of Americans and Iraqis, the military said. Separately, the U.S. announced the deaths of five American soldiers and an Iraqi interpreter.
Roadside bombs were responsible for three of the American deaths announced Friday and have long been the No. 1 killer of U.S. and Iraqi forces in Iraq, but the use of the Iranian explosively formed penetrators, or EFP's, is rising. The weapons, which hurl a fist-sized lump of molten copper, can pierce even U.S. armored vehicles newly designed to deflect roadside bombs.

The military said its forces had discovered and destroyed several caches of weapons over the last few months south of Baghdad, including Iranian-made rockets and mortars.

Roadside bombs have long been the No. 1 killer of U.S. and Iraqi forces in Iraq, but the use of the Iranian explosively formed penetrators, or EFP's, is rising. The weapons, which hurl a fist-sized lump of molten copper, can pierce even U.S. armored vehicles newly designed to deflect roadside bombs.

In Sadr City, the Baghdad slum that is home to Shiite militias allied with radical anti-American cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, coalition raids rounded up 16 suspected members of a militant cell that brought in the Iranian weapons, as well as militants seeking terrorist training, the U.S. said. Intelligence reports also indicate the cell is linked to kidnappings in Iraq, the statement said.

The military said over the last six months U.S. forces have found and destroyed four caches of Iranian-linked weapons around Mahmoudiya, a mostly Shiite enclave surrounded by Sunni-dominated areas about 20 miles south of Baghdad. Sectarian violence and attacks by militias and insurgents on American and Iraqi forces are common in the area.

Iranian officials deny importing weapons or militants into neighboring Iraq, but The Washington Post reported Friday that attacks in Iraq involving Iranian-made EFPs reached a record high last month.

Quoting Lt. Gen. Raymond T. Odierno, who oversees day-to-day U.S. military operations in Iraq, the paper said the number of attacks with the projectiles rose to 65 in April, most of them in predominantly Shiite eastern Baghdad. Officials said the projectiles are used almost exclusively by Shiite fighters against U.S. military targets.

EFPs were first reported used in Iraq in 2005 against British forces in the south, but have grown increasingly common, primarily in Baghdad.

The Post quoted Odierno as saying that before April, the month with the greatest number of projectile attacks was December 2006, with 62. It said the use of projectile weapons has risen over time as other types of bombs have become less effective against added U.S. armor.

Overall attacks using roadside bombs doubled in Iraq from 2006 to 2007 and number about 1,200 a month, the Post said. They cause roughly 70 percent of the casualties suffered by U.S. troops, the paper said.

Also Friday, the U.S. military identified two more top al-Qaida aides killed during an operation earlier this week targeting Muharib Abdul- Latif al-Jubouri, a senior propagandist for the terror network.

The American operation north of Baghdad led to days of conflicting reports from the Iraqi government that the leaders of al-Qaida and its front group, the Islamic State of Iraq had been killed.

The chief U.S. military spokesman on Thursday said the U.S. did not have the bodies of al-Qaida boss Abu Ayyub al-Masri or Islamic State leader Abu Omar al-Baghdadi and did not know "of anybody that does."

The military on Friday identified two of the other slain militants as al-Jubouri's spiritual guide Sabah Hilal al-Shihawi and a foreign fighter, Abu Ammar al-Masri, who it said was helping with insurgent activity and infrastructure support for al-Qaida.

Lt. Col. Christopher Garver, another U.S. military spokesman, said Friday that Abu Ammar al-Masri is unrelated to the al-Qaida boss.

Also Friday, a U.S. soldier was killed and two were wounded when their patrol was hit by a roadside bomb south of Baghdad. Since the start of the Iraq war in March 2003, at least 3,357 members of the U.S. military have died, according to an Associated Press count.

Separately, a roadside bomb killed five Iraqi policemen on a patrol in western Baghdad.

Seven bodies were found floating in the Diyala River in Baqouba, 35 miles

northeast of Baghdad, and snipers were preventing police and medical teams from recovering from the remains along with other bodies spotted in recent weeks from the waterway, police said.


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I dont care what the press says, most of those numbers are highly exagerated! You should see the number for civilians dead a week. Juse one day last week 198 civilians were killed. Roughly, 10,000 dead in 2 years.
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Anyway..those EFP's are a serious problem over there...
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The whole country is a problem! Im waiting for them to give us a green light to kill everyone! I dont think it will ever happen but a man can hope!
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I know it sounds bad, but I am highly interested in seeing one of these EFP's in action. (not too close of course) "fist sized lump of molten copper"???? I need to see this! That is an extremely scary thought.... sounds like a homemade RPG.
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The whole country is a problem! Im waiting for them to give us a green light to kill everyone! I dont think it will ever happen but a man can hope!
Somewhat true, but lets not act as if there are not some Iraqi's that want peace, security, and the overall well being of their respective families. I don't think there are as many Iraqis causing problems as there are Insurgents doing so.
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a friend of mine over there is waiting on the same....
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I know it sounds bad, but I am highly interested in seeing one of these EFP's in action. (not too close of course) "fist sized lump of molten copper"???? I need to see this! That is an extremely scary thought.... sounds like a homemade RPG.
10 times worse. Multiple armor-piercing projectiles which fly through engine blocks like a hot knife through butter.
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ive got some video of that EFP in action!!
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ive got some video of that EFP in action!!
I've seen um but they me off. I just wish we could drop a few 1000 lbers on Iranian assets so they stop supplying the fcukers
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They can even peirce the new cougar (which an IED just rocks)
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10 times worse. Multiple armor-piercing projectiles which fly through engine blocks like a hot knife through butter.
again....I NEED to see this. ( I know it's being used in a fuct up way, but I am highly intrigued by these sorts of things) the sheer carnage something like that can produce is just amazing.....and to think it can be made at home is quite unsettling.
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Yep, the dayum things fly at mach 9...ain't much stopping um...
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ive got some video of that EFP in action!!
post it up....

(I'm still waiting on the helmet cam videos my boy is supposed to be taking)
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again....I NEED to see this. ( I know it's being used in a fuct up way, but I am highly intrigued by these sorts of things) the sheer carnage something like that can produce is just amazing.....and to think it can be made at home is quite unsettling.
Yea, they have been seeing Mexican smugglers attempt to use these on our Border Patrol lately, not as effective as the Quds versions but still can do damage
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my boy was showing me clips of their famous fat sniper that's been pickin our boys off..... know if they bagged him yet?
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Juba? Yea, Marine busted his
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