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Old 04-22-2014, 09:58 AM   #1
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Sena SMH10

Since there have been a lot of questions about different mounts and such with the group buy Solracer setup, I thought I'd do a break-down of the different mount kits and why you might need a different mount than someone else.

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I will be throwing a lot of numbers around, so here's the basic breakdown of the part numbers for the mount kits:

SMH-A0301


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This is the kit mount you'll receive if you order the standard SMH10 "kit" (single or dual). This mount features an attached boom mic and in-helmet speakers.

SMH-A0302


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This mount features helmet speakers, but has two wired mics included: a "wired" mic that is easy to place anywhere and completely conceal the wires, and a detached boom mic. The mic will plug into the headset and then mount using a supplied adhesive velcro pad.

SMH-A0303


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This mount has the same attached boom mic as the -A0301 mount, but features a female 3.5mm connection for earbuds instead of the helmet speakers.

SMH-A0304


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The -A0304 mount includes the wired mics and a 3.5mm connection for earbuds.

Which mount do you need?
This is a little harder to answer. Personally I prefer to use sound isolating earbuds, and a full-face helmet. Because of this, I felt the -A0304 mounting kit gave me the features I needed. I've now tried setting it up on a couple of different helmets and have been told the wired mic was fine at about 50mph, but really noisy at 70mph.

For reference, I have no real windscreen on my bike, and the helmet was a Joe Rocket RKT202 full face helmet. Not the quietest helmet, but not the noisiest either. I had the mic mounted directly in the center of the chin bar.

As I was taking pictures for this write-up I mounted the kit on my HJC CL-16 helmet with the detached boom mic, and I'll see if this one works any better to reduce the effect of wind noise, but I can't comment on it just yet.

Can I use a single kit for more than one helmet?
Short answer, yes. Longer answer, I wouldn't. The mount will transfer to another helmet, but it is fairly time consuming, especially if you choose to hide all your wires. I would suggest purchasing a mount for each helmet you intend to use regularly and just swap your bluetooth module onto it.

I'll post the installation write-up/explanation here in a bit.
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So how does all of this go together?
Let's take a look at all the parts...

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Here are all my pieces laid out on the table. At the top you can see the bluetooth module (individually, it's part number is SMH10-M01), and my SMH-A0304 kit spread out below it. The one thing not pictured is one of the little adhesive-backed velcro pads that had already been installed in my other helmet for the wired mic.

Closer shot of the bluetooth module, front and back:
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The assembly, with wired mic, off the helmet:
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Now to the mount kit. You're given two options: clamp or adhesive. I would not recommend using the adhesive mount, but my understanding is that some helmets don't accept the clamp readily, but even the instructions advise against using the adhesive and state that you do so "at your own risk".
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As you can see in the pictures above, the backing plate (adhesive or clamp) will secure to the mount bracket with a couple of stainless SHCS screws (hex key provided).

Slide the backing plate on the inside of the helmet shell, approximately where you want the module placed.
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Align the mount bracket on the outside, and position as desired.
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Once you're happy with placement, screw them together.
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I would suggest putting the main module on the helmet at this point and trying to put the helmet on/off your head a couple of times to make sure the module won't be in the way.

Once you're happy with the placement of the module, remove the cheek pad of the helmet and mount the mic. If you're using the wired mic, place the velcro pad where you want the mic, stick the mic on the velcro, and hide the wiring. If you're using the detached boom mic, I'd start with placing the mic where you want it, then bend the boom around the helmet to determine velcro placement. Again, hide wires as desired, and replace the cheek pad.

Admire your handy-work.
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I have no instructions for mounting the helmet speakers, because I have never done it. Once I get a second kit for my wife's helmet I may update with those instructions as she may not want to use earbuds.
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Awesome. All my questions have been answered

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Ok so the wire mic is not an add on its a different unit setup? Or do you get two bases (reg boom mic) and purchase the setup with the wire mic/ear bud attachment. Then 1 Bluetooth Unit?
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The mic and/or speaker setup is dependent on the base mount kit you buy. The bluetooth module is a separate part.

If you buy the standard "kit" from sena, it includes the bluetooth module and the -A0301 mount kit (likewise the dual kit includes two modules and two mount kits). If you wanted a separate base (-A0302, -3, or -4) you would need to purchase it separately, but that would leave you with an unused mount kit. If you would normally use the -A0301 kit and have more than one helmet this is a fine way to buy it.

I chose to go a little different route and purchased a "replacement" bluetooth module (SMH10-M01, the module and charging cable ONLY, not even a manual, runs about $110 on amazon), and the base kit of my choice (-A0304, ~$33 on amazon). It came out a little cheaper than the kit by itself, and I don't have parts sitting around I'll never use.

I'm waiting to see if the individual parts will be available on this group buy.
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The mic and/or speaker setup is dependent on the base mount kit you buy. The bluetooth module is a separate part.

If you buy the standard "kit" from sena, it includes the bluetooth module and the -A0301 mount kit (likewise the dual kit includes two modules and two mount kits). If you wanted a separate base (-A0302, -3, or -4) you would need to purchase it separately, but that would leave you with an unused mount kit. If you would normally use the -A0301 kit and have more than one helmet this is a fine way to buy it.

I chose to go a little different route and purchased a "replacement" bluetooth module (SMH10-M01, the module and charging cable ONLY, not even a manual, runs about $110 on amazon), and the base kit of my choice (-A0304, ~$33 on amazon). It came out a little cheaper than the kit by itself, and I don't have parts sitting around I'll never use.

I'm waiting to see if the individual parts will be available on this group buy.
Yeah I was going to buy a new helmet and out the boom mic on my old helmet and wire mic on the new one. Just transfer the Bluetooth back and forth.
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Yeah I was going to buy a new helmet and out the boom mic on my old helmet and wire mic on the new one. Just transfer the Bluetooth back and forth.
This is similar to what I do.
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Wow. That's much more of an intensive install than what I use, the SMH-10R.
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Really? Took me all of 1min to install.
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haha, yeah. Slide the mount tab in the shell, mount attaches with two screws. Stick on velcro, stick on mic, connect mic wire, pop on bluetooth module, it's ready to go. Can't imagine that hiding that one wire takes longer than hiding 3. It took me all of about 10 minutes to take it off the old helmet, take some pics, adjust lighting (as much as I could) for better pics, retake pics, and photograph install on other helmet.

To recap actual installation:

Step 1:
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Step 2:
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Step 3:
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So how does all of this go together?
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One thing to note, if using the universal boom mic, the instructions say to mount the velcro on the inside of the helmet, between the shell and cheek pad. Oh well.
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One thing to note, if using the universal boom mic, the instructions say to mount the velcro on the inside of the helmet, between the shell and cheek pad. Oh well.
And on helmets without a recess for the button mic, use the boom mic if you can. It will help a lot with reducing wind noise...especially if you don't have a chin skirt. With short-nosed helmets (KBC, Arai), you probably won't have room for the boom mic.
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