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Old 04-22-2014, 09:33 AM   #1
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s1000R BORC Review

So after 500 miles and a good BORC ride I can finally put a review. Let me preface what my uses for this bike is for.

I live in Midtown, in the middle of the ..traffic, bad roads and idiots. I also enjoy taking long trips to various places around the USA, and I love hard road riding ala BORC style.

This bike does all of the above VERY well.

First, let me list the features:

Traction Control (ASC)
Race ABS
Heated Grips
Quickshifter aka Shift Assist
Riding modes (Rain, Road, Dynamic, and with chip...dynamic PRO)
Electronic Adjustable suspension (Hard, Soft, Normal, 1up/2up)
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CRUISE CONTROL
Self Cancelling Turn Signals
Battery tender cable Pre-installed
4.6 Gallon tank
Easy on/off Windshield options (3 screws)

So its hard to describe this bike riding, because it all depends what mode combination your riding in. Which is why i love it. I love that I can do it all on the fly! (Except Dynamic PRO).

So initially i started in Road Mode with SOFT suspension. I took it down richmond and some houston roads. It road over everything like butter. Then i went to normal, still good..but I have more road feel and quick turn ins. Then I went to HARD mode...now its stuff as , im feeling bumps...but the bike is like a scalpel!!!

Next.

I wake up to ride to our meet spot. Its a bit chill (50'). So i pop on the heated grips, click on the cruise control (It works exactly like a cars, not some ghetto throttle lock).

So for 30 mins I enjoy a peaceful ride on the slab.

Fast forward to 149/3090 ion Mexico. Im in Hard mode with Dynamic suspension on. This bike is going 130+ into turns leaning and taking the corners like a scalpel. I'm sure videos are coming soon since i left people in the dust on it!


In review, I would say this is the best high performance "Do everything bike, jack of trades, master of none". Sure, its not the s1000RR with fairings, its not the BMW k1600 touring bike, its not the Hypermotard naked.

Its the best of all of those with little compromise.

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Old 04-22-2014, 10:07 AM   #2
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Old 04-22-2014, 10:11 AM   #3
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Nice review, makes me wanna get one..
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Old 04-22-2014, 10:16 AM   #4
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Wow... I'm interested in the cruise control setup... I assume its all ECU based.... I'd love that on my RR... I wonder if.....hmmm....


Looks like a killer bike you have there. Pretty much everything the RR is NOT on the street...lol
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Old 04-22-2014, 10:30 AM   #5
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I've been really hating on this bike, but your review makes me think twice. I still think it's fat, but sounds like it does a lot of stuff very well.

How's the torque? I know they tuned it for more low end power than the RR, but when I rode the HP4 all I could think of was "this is just an r6 on steroids."

Does it have comparable grunt to a z1k, s3, etc?


PS- dat rake doe. Looks fairly non-aggressive. How's the flickability?
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Old 04-22-2014, 12:16 PM   #6
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I went to look at one today actually. The matte blue looks really nice. Feels really light too. Cruise control is pretty sweet. They say the gearing and tuning gives it more midrange power. Is this true? I like the Tuono and this BMW. I know you had a new Tuono and that bike was supposed to have a good midrange but I think my 08 CBR1000R felt stronger. I'm hoping this new BMW is a bit stronger in the midrange compared to the Tuono. Moving out to the burbs soon so I need to get something more street worthy.
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Old 04-22-2014, 12:25 PM   #7
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Looks nice. Whats the hp ratings compared to the RR?

Did you consider any other nakeds?
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Also, the salesman claims that little tiny windscreen somehow actually keeps a bunch of wind off of your chest. Don't know how that is possible because it is so small. So is that true?
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Nice review expect the part where you left people in the dust. You may have... but not the bikes that matter! )
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I went to look at one today actually. The matte blue looks really nice. Feels really light too. Cruise control is pretty sweet. They say the gearing and tuning gives it more midrange power. Is this true? I like the Tuono and this BMW. I know you had a new Tuono and that bike was supposed to have a good midrange but I think my 08 CBR1000R felt stronger. I'm hoping this new BMW is a bit stronger in the midrange compared to the Tuono. Moving out to the burbs soon so I need to get something more street worthy.
It has the same amount of Torque and 10hp less than the Tuono V4... Also an inline 4 will NEVER have more midrange than a V4... Your also comparing your Sport to a naked with the Midrange on the CBR... If your gonna compare there compare against the RSV4 as the cam timing is retarded on the Tuono to RSV4 for more Torque....
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It has the same amount of Torque and 10hp less than the Tuono V4... Also an inline 4 will NEVER have more midrange than a V4... Your also comparing your Sport to a naked with the Midrange on the CBR... If your gonna compare there compare against the RSV4 as the cam timing is retarded on the Tuono to RSV4 for more Torque....
Not exactly true. Peak numbers may be close but I'm asking about the midrange power. Not sure of the exact midrange figures for the tuono but my CBR1000RR felt stronger in the 5-8k range according to my dyno. I know for a fact that the CBR1000rr bests the RSV4 by 15-20 lb ft in that same range. It's not even close. That's why I bought the CBR, it had the best midrange which I think is good for street riding because that's where you spend the most time.
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Nice review expect the part where you left people in the dust. You may have... but not the bikes that matter! )
Lol, in a straight away against bikes with fairings, yea..but the corners...all day long LOL
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You forgot to mention that its the 3rd one in houston!
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I followed morvegil for a bit and did notice the R-naked has a good punch when required. Still I didn't pin the ape to pass but was still drawn at how good that beemer was performing
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To answer a few questions above. Ive owned these naked bikes

SPeed Triple R
Ducati Streetfighter
Tuono V4r

Rode these:
KTM SUperduke (Old)
z1000 (Last generation).

This bike has GREAT midrange power. Its very flickable. The way the bike moves based on what you set the suspension to is very NOTICABLE. In soft mode it feels good...in Hard mode its ultra responsive. Mind you, I ride this bike in the back streets of Montrose...those roads SUCK...but its so nimble!!!.

Cruise control is ECU based...it functions as your car does.

Its very hooliganisque power.

The tuono has this for specs

Maximum power at the crank: 170 CV (125 kW) a 11.500 rpm

Maximum torque at the crank: 111.5 Nm a 9.500 rpm

S1000r has

Rated output 160 hp (118 kW) at 11,000 rpm
Max. torque 83 lb/ft (112 Nm) at 9,250 rpm

This is from the website of both manufacturers. Really this is like splitting hairs. Powerwise they feel the same.

The big kicker?


Fuel light came on consistently at 60-70mile mark on the Tuono. It drinks gas...well known "feature" of the V4's.

S1000 light? 100-115.

4.6 Tank vs 3.5 (They increased it slight in 2014).
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. My KTM SuperDuke 990 wasnt that old...

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To answer a few questions above. Ive owned these naked bikes

SPeed Triple R
Ducati Streetfighter
Tuono V4r

Rode these:
KTM SUperduke (Old)
z1000 (Last generation).

This bike has GREAT midrange power. Its very flickable. The way the bike moves based on what you set the suspension to is very NOTICABLE. In soft mode it feels good...in Hard mode its ultra responsive. Mind you, I ride this bike in the back streets of Montrose...those roads SUCK...but its so nimble!!!.

Cruise control is ECU based...it functions as your car does.

Its very hooliganisque power.

The tuono has this for specs

Maximum power at the crank: 170 CV (125 kW) a 11.500 rpm

Maximum torque at the crank: 111.5 Nm a 9.500 rpm

S1000r has

Rated output 160 hp (118 kW) at 11,000 rpm
Max. torque 83 lb/ft (112 Nm) at 9,250 rpm

This is from the website of both manufacturers. Really this is like splitting hairs. Powerwise they feel the same.

The big kicker?


Fuel light came on consistently at 60-70mile mark on the Tuono. It drinks gas...well known "feature" of the V4's.

S1000 light? 100-115.

4.6 Tank vs 3.5 (They increased it slight in 2014).
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LOl i meant it was the old one not the new one LOL
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