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Old 04-21-2014, 10:41 AM   #81
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My lap timer can weigh the in my bowels and calculate how much it slows me down per lap, so it should be able to weigh the bikes?

For me personally, sport bikes on the street make no sense. They are uncomfortable and I don't need the ultimate performance they offer on the street because I won't be riding in 8/10ths much less 10/10ths. So if I were to ever get another street bike it would probably be a adv tourer or sport naked.

I ride a sport bike 4-5 times a week to work. Not uncomfortable to me lol
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I agree you likely can get more bang for the buck out of an RSV4. Yes my bike full of fuel on the office shipping scales is just shy of 447lbs. That's part of the shock of the v4 and the EBR, they both handle like MUCH lighter machines than they are. I've ridden a Pani and the EBR back to back, Pani much lighter on the scales but not on its feet. EBR handles lighter even more so at speed. V2's suit my riding style but if I didn't have the 1190RX, and only since they dropped their prices $3K last year it would be the RSV4 APRC FTW but only because of that, $3k drop. As adjustable as the RC8 is (the EBR has adjustable rearsets also) I just could not get comfortable on it. I'm 6'3 and change, and it just wasn't the right triangle for me. It was right in that spot of not being compact enough like the RSV4 or not stretched out enough like the R1 to be comfortable. Ergos on the 1190RS pretty much sold the RX for me.

I think prices will come down with economy of scale. It always surprises me to hear people complain about prices on US made goods or from boutique companies. Part of the allure of an exotic is A) not everyone has, would or can have one so its different.
B)The Lure behind why its different, in this case American made old school engineering solutions to hyper power sports machines and C) the pride of ownership that comes from knowing A and B. Fortunately for me this the first time A and B add up to a machine that can hold its own on the street or track against modern competition and still be confidently ridden even when the pilot is a noob mortal like me.
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For me personally, sport bikes on the street make no sense. They are uncomfortable and I don't need the ultimate performance they offer on the street because I won't be riding in 8/10ths much less 10/10ths. So if I were to ever get another street bike it would probably be a adv tourer or sport naked.
If I always wanted comfort I'd always drive a cage
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I agree you likely can get more bang for the buck out of an RSV4. Yes my bike full of fuel on the office shipping scales is just shy of 447lbs. That's part of the shock of the v4 and the EBR, they both handle like MUCH lighter machines than they are. I've ridden a Pani and the EBR back to back, Pani much lighter on the scales but not on its feet. EBR handles lighter even more so at speed. V2's suit my riding style but if I didn't have the 1190RX, and only since they dropped their prices $3K last year it would be the RSV4 APRC FTW but only because of that, $3k drop. As adjustable as the RC8 is (the EBR has adjustable rearsets also) I just could not get comfortable on it. I'm 6'3 and change, and it just wasn't the right triangle for me. It was right in that spot of not being compact enough like the RSV4 or not stretched out enough like the R1 to be comfortable. Ergos on the 1190RS pretty much sold the RX for me.

I think prices will come down with economy of scale. It always surprises me to hear people complain about prices on US made goods or from boutique companies. Part of the allure of an exotic is A) not everyone has, would or can have one so its different.
B)The Lure behind why its different, in this case American made old school engineering solutions to hyper power sports machines and C) the pride of ownership that comes from knowing A and B. Fortunately for me this the first time A and B add up to a machine that can hold its own on the street or track against modern competition and still be confidently ridden even when the pilot is a noob mortal like me.
I think he EBR "handles light" because the bars may be wider than other sportbikes. They felt wide to me anyway. My HD sportster feels really light too when I'm riding it because the bars are 4 freaking feet wide and there's no steering damper, but I wouldn't recommend trying to out turn a sportbike on it
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Id just ride a bike that I can do 100 miles on and not want to die. Plenty of bikes that can do everything I'm going to do on the road and not kill my wrists and back.

I only bring this up in this thread because when I look at sport bikes it is only to ride on the track. So how the bike feels and it's performance is all that matters to me.

Edit: for the street one thing matters grins per mile. If I'm grinning ear to ear each mile then it's a great bike.

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It helps to be in shape and focus on good riding posture to be happy on a superbike, that and hauling
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I think he EBR "handles light" because the bars may be wider than other sportbikes. They felt wide to me anyway.
Well, aren't you the princess and the pea After checking, they (the bars) are indeed 1/8" wider than on your CBR1000RR! Good catch.

I think it handles lighter even though it is heavier than any 600, as a combination of the steep rake, short wheelbase, and front wheel being physically lighter yet maintaining nearly the same gyroscopic inertia avoiding the feeling of being twitchy. I will likely replace the Showa steering damper but I have had three occasions where I was truly glad it was there!
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Helps but doesn't eliminate. On the track I don't notice any back or wrist fatigue so maybe I ride a sport bike like a and thats my problem.

I rode the Aprilia caponord 1200 back to back with the ebr on the same road. I was smiling and enjoying myself on the aprilia and the ebr was uncomfortable and not as confidence inspiring as the aprilia. So the ebr lost the grins per mile test.
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As far a wrist pain, the handle bars are for steering, not for supporting your body
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Just throwing my $.02 in here:

Rode the EBR saturday afternoon.

Ergos were amazing. Sitting upright/forward in the seat, there was hardly any wrist pressure at all, and the adjustable sets made plenty of leg room. To the same point, the seat is built in a way that I was able to slide back in the seat to race tuck very easily.

The brakes were the . Period. One finger, like my track .

The handling was nice, but we never go to ride hard enough to feel the difference that all the unsprung weight reduction makes.


The sounds were terrible. From the idler sprocket to the mechanical bark of the valve train, to the all-too-quiet stock exhaust. It needs a full/open race system bad.

The power really wasn't amazing. However, the gearing was VERY tall. It was cruising the hwy in 3rd very happily. First may well take you over 100, I saw 90's in 1st a couple times with rpms to go.

I still think that the Aprilia V4 is the most fun motor ive had the pleasure to run, but the EBR was a very cool bike. I would love to see how it handles at a track, where it is most at home.
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Agreed but the less weight I put on my wrist the more strain I put on my lower back. It's just a cost with no benefit to me. I like having a very upright position for riding in the street.
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That's not what she said...

What I need is the marine corps to give me back my pain free lower back.
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What I need is the marine corps to give me back my pain free lower back.

Well there you go. Dont blame the bike lol
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