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Old 04-16-2014, 12:28 PM   #21
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Whats important is the tire temp. 180-200 is ideal
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If it's only for the track than most people run the Bridgestone R10 120/70/ZR17 front, and the 003 140/70/ZR17 rear.

I would run that on the street all day. Once you ride a ninjer with r10 front and 003 rear you will never want to ride anything else.


Though stock touring tires make things like the clover leafs fun when commuting.
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Old 04-18-2014, 11:10 AM   #23
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Whats important is the tire temp. 180-200 is ideal
^^THIS^^ If you are not ridding hard, you won't be able to tell the difference between a good tire and a bad one.
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Old 04-18-2014, 06:26 PM   #24
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120 R10 front, 140 003RS rear, is a great combination with reasonable street and good track wear. 24- 27 rear, 28 - 31 front PSI and you'll fee like a moto GP champ even on stock suspension.
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Was at GSS yesterday and got some help with the tire pressures from Tim . . . that helped

I had stock brake pads on and after lunch they were really were almost ineffective braking hard coming into turn one . . .that was scary . .

I think i need to upgrade my brakepads, any suggestions?
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Old 05-05-2014, 10:41 AM   #26
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Maybe you need to bleed them first. I ran stock brake pads on the 250 the whole year last year.
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Maybe you need to bleed them first. I ran stock brake pads on the 250 the whole year last year.
ok i thought it was the pads cause it would work fine in the beginning of the session and start fading out . . .
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That can also be from boiling your fluid, I would upgrade both the fluid and the pads.
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Old 05-05-2014, 07:41 PM   #29
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boiling the fluid will tend to bring the lever to the bar and you may have to pump the brake to get it to stop (if you have time ).

cooking the pads/rotors will tend to cause you to need a hard 4 finger pull on the lever to get it to stop (and even that may not be enough to get it whoa'd sufficiently if the fade is bad).

my experience:

I set the team 250 up with ebc hh pads on the stock 250 front rotor and managed to cook the pads at GSS back in March. they'd start out the session fine but gave up around the 1/2 way mark in the later sessions - normal lever, but requiring a very hard pull to generate sufficient stopping power.

so, I upgraded to an ebc floating front rotor and flushed the fluid (always motul rbf600 dot 4 racing brake fluid) before the CMRA ECR 6 hour endurance race back in April. I also wanted to upgrade to more race-worthy vesrah rjl pads, but they didn't make it here in time.

despite the fresh fluid and rotor, we still managed to cook the pads thoroughly in the race - our fastest rider took the bike out the first 1 hour 20 minute stint (the last 6 minutes being pushed back to the pits by the outrider when he ran out of gas ), and when I took the bike out for the 2nd stint I almost ran off at T3 (the first left hander at the top of the hill after leaving the pits) because the lever required so much more force than when I'd just sprinted the bike that morning... we were able to adjust our expectations, but it made trying to outbrake someone into a corner a bit more exciting.

I got the vesrahs installed in time for GSS this past sunday and I had zero problems with the braking once they were bedded in.

anyway, just another data point to consider.
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boiling the fluid will tend to bring the lever to the bar and you may have to pump the brake to get it to stop (if you have time ).

cooking the pads/rotors will tend to cause you to need a hard 4 finger pull on the lever to get it to stop (and even that may not be enough to get it whoa'd sufficiently if the fade is bad).

my experience:

I set the team 250 up with ebc hh pads on the stock 250 front rotor and managed to cook the pads at GSS back in March. they'd start out the session fine but gave up around the 1/2 way mark in the later sessions - normal lever, but requiring a very hard pull to generate sufficient stopping power.

so, I upgraded to an ebc floating front rotor and flushed the fluid (always motul rbf600 dot 4 racing brake fluid) before the CMRA ECR 6 hour endurance race back in April. I also wanted to upgrade to more race-worthy vesrah rjl pads, but they didn't make it here in time.

despite the fresh fluid and rotor, we still managed to cook the pads thoroughly in the race - our fastest rider took the bike out the first 1 hour 20 minute stint (the last 6 minutes being pushed back to the pits by the outrider when he ran out of gas ), and when I took the bike out for the 2nd stint I almost ran off at T3 (the first left hander at the top of the hill after leaving the pits) because the lever required so much more force than when I'd just sprinted the bike that morning... we were able to adjust our expectations, but it made trying to outbrake someone into a corner a bit more exciting.

I got the vesrahs installed in time for GSS this past sunday and I had zero problems with the braking once they were bedded in.

anyway, just another data point to consider.
Good intel! I just ordered EBC HH pads yesterday and saw this.....
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Good intel! I just ordered EBC HH pads yesterday and saw this.....
no worries - they are still worth trying. you might have better luck with them than we did. shoot, pads for the 250s are cheap enough you can try them all out at least once, lol.

and don't forget mark ran stock pads on his last year without problems, and he's much faster than I am. I may be doing it wrong.
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Mark never touched the brakes last year...
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Good intel! I just ordered EBC HH pads yesterday and saw this.....
I run the HH pads on my 250.
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I'll try them out and see how they feel. I have stock pads now with ss line and fresh dot 4.
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boiling the fluid will tend to bring the lever to the bar and you may have to pump the brake to get it to stop (if you have time ).

cooking the pads/rotors will tend to cause you to need a hard 4 finger pull on the lever to get it to stop (and even that may not be enough to get it whoa'd sufficiently if the fade is bad).

my experience:

I set the team 250 up with ebc hh pads on the stock 250 front rotor and managed to cook the pads at GSS back in March. they'd start out the session fine but gave up around the 1/2 way mark in the later sessions - normal lever, but requiring a very hard pull to generate sufficient stopping power.

so, I upgraded to an ebc floating front rotor and flushed the fluid (always motul rbf600 dot 4 racing brake fluid) before the CMRA ECR 6 hour endurance race back in April. I also wanted to upgrade to more race-worthy vesrah rjl pads, but they didn't make it here in time.

despite the fresh fluid and rotor, we still managed to cook the pads thoroughly in the race - our fastest rider took the bike out the first 1 hour 20 minute stint (the last 6 minutes being pushed back to the pits by the outrider when he ran out of gas ), and when I took the bike out for the 2nd stint I almost ran off at T3 (the first left hander at the top of the hill after leaving the pits) because the lever required so much more force than when I'd just sprinted the bike that morning... we were able to adjust our expectations, but it made trying to outbrake someone into a corner a bit more exciting.

I got the vesrahs installed in time for GSS this past sunday and I had zero problems with the braking once they were bedded in.

anyway, just another data point to consider.
Thats a lot of good info, thanks
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It's more than likely the brake line. Spend $50 on a braided steel line.
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You can run pretty quick on a stock ninja. Steel line will help them feel beter. Didn't use a bunch of break at gss. You must be doing something wrong.
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You can run pretty quick on a stock ninja. Steel line will help them feel beter. Didn't use a bunch of break at gss. You must be doing something wrong.
Yeah he wasn't going fast like you...
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