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Old 04-08-2014, 10:26 PM   #1
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Question Oil questions - Time for an oil change

So I got the fuel all cleaned up, new filter and a new battery. Runs fine but before I get any more miles it is time for an oil change and I came across this site:
http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/Filters.html

It has a good summary of oil filters.

Also referenced this site:
http://balestech.com/filter.htm

Which sells oil filter adapters for Suzuki so you can use a high performance oil filter on the bike.

Thoughts?

Is the old paper Fram good enough?
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We can argue all year about this topic.
I have seen the oil arguments but not the filter arguments.
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Why don't you just run what the manufacturer recommends?
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I run Amsoil 10-40 in the 250 with an internal K&N oil filter. I change both every 3000 miles. On the Honda I run Hp4 semi synthetic and change the oil every 3000 miles/ oil filter @ 6000 miles. Every oil change I clean the K&N air filters. I use oem oil filters on the Honda.
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I run Amsoil 10-40 in the 250 with an internal K&N oil filter. I change both every 3000 miles. On the Honda I run Hp4 semi synthetic and change the oil every 3000 miles/ oil filter @ 6000 miles. Every oil change I clean the K&N air filters. I use oem oil filters on the Honda.
Isn't it better to change the filter every 3-4000 miles. Sine your running semi synthetic then the oil could technically go longer.
Personally I change the filter and oil at the same time at 3000 miles. filters is only like 15 and like to have a little piece of mind.
I always run oem filters
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I don't care if its synthetic or not. It's still going to break down. I change every 3k with Oem filter.
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Isn't it better to change the filter every 3-4000 miles. Sine your running semi synthetic then the oil could technically go longer.
Personally I change the filter and oil at the same time at 3000 miles. filters is only like 15 and like to have a little piece of mind.
Have you looked at the filter? In the manual it recommends every other change. I know someone who ran a whole season without changing the oil. To each their own though. If you want to change it for piece of mind go for it.
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For you track guys: I was told that for a dedicated track bike, changing the oil every 3 trackdays is a good idea. Bike is an 07 GSXR 600, stock motor. I'm not planning on running the bike too hard- level 1, level 2 at most. Is this overkill, or about right?
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Cuong-Nuts had a great thread about this awhile back. He even sent in his oil to a lab. He might post up in a bit.
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I just follow the owner's manuel.
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But my bike is super special and custom. The book doesn't apply to my bike. I have a pc5 and a slip on.
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I read a really indepth article on filters where they compared all the major brands. Can't find it now.

Result was Purolator was constructed the best with good filtering elements, so that is what I run.
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Purolator ML16818 will fit your bike. It's motorcycle specific and no adapter is required. They can be had on amazon for about $6. amazon's part checker says it doesn't fit your bike, but it will. K&N's filter for your bike is the KN-138 (mine, too) and the ML16818 is the Purolator equivalent. Here is a list of filters for your bike:

http://gsx650f.freeforums.org/oil-filters-t281.html

The only reason to use the Bales adapter is to get more filtering medium by using a car filter (since they're larger). You'd have to make sure you have enough room for the car filter, though.
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Because you can buy higher quality synthetic Bosch filters at Auto zone 7 days per week. Paranoia is a !
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Synthetic filters? That's crazy. I only use organic filters.
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