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Old 04-07-2014, 11:17 PM   #1
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Bluetooth- Sena vs Scala Rider

So I've been looking at bluetooth units, and have narrowed the search down to 2 units: the Sena SMH10R vs the Cardo ScalaRider Q3. They look almost identical in terms of specs- range, number of riders, etc. I plan on pairing it with my iPhone only, and using that for music, gps, calls, XM. I might eventually use the intercom feature if a friend of mine gets one. I'm interested in audio quality, kind of skeptical about the quality of any in-helmet speakers. Although, with either, it looks like there are adapters to use my in-ears ($$$ Shures, great sound isolation, double as ear plugs), so I might ditch the stock speakers, anyway. Any experience with either? Anyone tried both? Seems like both are equally well-reviewed, but the Sena looks much more popular, maybe for good reason?

Price isn't really an issue- on amazon there's less than a $10 difference between the two. about $175 for the Sena with headphone adapter, $180-190 for the Scala (no adapter needed)

http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/s...etooth-headset

http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/cardo-scala-rider-q3
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I just bought the smh10 for $80 bucks new and it's amazing. It's TOO LOUD on its highest setting and everyone says the call quality is super clear. I've only had it for 2 days and I'm going to return my $150 Bose sport headphones. Go with the sena I have no complaints. It also works flawlessly with my iPhone 5s.
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I have the SMH-10. I love it. I have a friend that had it and got the Q9. This is all after the Q3. According to him, got Q9. Not the 3. Said that as hard as it was to beat, the Q9 did beat the SMH-10. I've been on my bike at times and moving and people couldn't tell I was moving.
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I have the smh10 and love it though I prefer to use my own big ear headphones with it.

No experience with Scala but I chose Sena because of the simple user interface.
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I have the SMH10R, love the interface and haven't had any issues. Battery lasts forever, sound quality is good enough with the stock speakers, most people I talk to on the phone never even know I'm on the bike.
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I commute every day with my Sena, and wouldn't ride without it!
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To those with the 10r, how does it work without a jog dial?

I like being able to adjust volume etc with my jog dial on my SMH10...
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Another thing I wasn't so keen on with the 10r was a battery INSIDE my helmet... (back of my head no less) with he SMH10, most everything is outside...
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Might want to be mindful as to which system has "universal" bluetooth compatibility, or is at least firmware upgradable. I believe Sena just went universal, but I have no first hand knowledge. I have Uclear HBC100+ and they just released a firmware update for universal bluetooth intercom compatibility.

They will all go that way, sooner or later, so firmware upgradability is important.
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Bluetooth- Sena vs Scala Rider

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To those with the 10r, how does it work without a jog dial?



I like being able to adjust volume etc with my jog dial on my SMH10...

It's similar to using the buttons on the headphone cord, just slightly different button combos.

Basically you have 3 buttons (+), (-), and (enter). Turn it on my pressing + and enter, play music by holding enter for 3 seconds, volume up and down by + and -, skip tracks by holding +, answer calls with enter, hold enter for 6 seconds to get Siri.

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And the battery can go outside the helmet if you want, that's what I did.

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Hmmmm, Id have to try it out , but I think the SMH10 is more intuitive? Theoretically the 10r SHOULD be better though...
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I liked these two articles on the SMH10 vs SMH10R topic:
1) http://rideapart.com/2013/04/gear-se...mh10-headsets/
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2) http://www.gizmag.com/sena-smh10r-re...ntercom/26430/

As far as Sena or Cardo, Sena seems to be the winner so far, especially now that it has universal bluetooth user to user available.
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10R cant use earbuds?


NOPE....I'll stick to my 10's....
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I know I'm biased, but this was why I chose the 10 over the 10R, well, plus they are cheaper..


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But while the SMH10R is certainly nicer to look at, and works well, it suffers in comparison to the chunky SMH10, which is functionally superior in almost every way.
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Why have Bluetooth in the helmet if you still have to put earbuds in? Seems annoying.

Personal preference either way. I feel like a jog dial would be tricky without a screen to look at. But that's me.
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Ear buds with foam tips provide best isolation and sound quality along with great comfort.

Blue tooth means I'm not physically connected to my phone.

But like you say, it's all preference. Actually, I have one mount with boom mic and speakers in one helmet for short rides and another helmet with the whole shebang for longer rides. I use one module and swap em. Quick easy and cheap. Also, charging the 10 is easier.
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Went with the Sena

I went to see Patrick (Motorcycles Unlimited) today for a GSXR part, and he happened to have one SMH-10 in stock. I tried it out, liked it, and bought it from him. It was a breeze to install, pairing with the iPhone was easy as well.

And Solracer- you can use your own earbuds with either the SMH-10 or the 10R. They just require different adapters cables- see below. I plan on getting the earbud adapter for mine. I'm not thrilled with the stock speaker sound quality so far, but I know they're not "broken in" yet so I may wait a few weeks on that.

Which adapter do you have for the 10 ?

http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/s...it-for-earbuds
http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/s...-adapter-cable


Thanks for the input guys.
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Ah, well, then as far as the ear buds go, the 10R has a leg up. That's a lot cheaper. I bought the kit that has it all. The 10R "looks" cleaner, but I think the 10 seems more intuitive, to me anyhow.
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My Scala G9 speaker blew out after three months. The sound quality was not that great and it didn't get loud enough. Cardo systems, the maker of scala rider has horrible customer service. I'll never buy any of their products again. I have the regular SMH10 with the dial now.
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