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Old 03-19-2014, 12:45 PM   #21
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I have the same problem with a bike that sat for three months. It was started about once a week, but now is not starting. I will do what Patrick suggested. However, if the battery dies, can I jump it with a car?
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I have the same problem with a bike that sat for three months. It was started about once a week, but now is not starting. I will do what Patrick suggested. However, if the battery dies, can I jump it with a car?
Yes, but don't have the car running.
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Old 03-19-2014, 02:56 PM   #23
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Even though I agree with draining the old gas is the best option, I have to say that the damage is done by leaving the gas in the carb for a long time, not by running old gas. So it might be too late and you'll need to take apart your carbs and clean them if it runs rough. Good luck
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The carbs on my boat really hates the ethanol gas. 30 days of sitting and the carbs needed rebuilding. Yamaha carbs. Hate this new BS gas
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Old 03-19-2014, 08:32 PM   #25
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I read somewhere that you can add 1/4 cup baking soda, just a few pinches of sugar and a few lemon drops and it makes the gas fresher than the day you bought it.

Give it a whirl - - - - - - -
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Is this a drink recipe for E85, or a homemade stabil?
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Bike sitting for a bit over 8 months.

So... should I fire it up and run through the gas in the tank or drain it the best I can and then fill it fresh?
Did you try starting it up at all?
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I think he has injectors not carbs
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I think he has injectors not carbs
Yeah, GSX650F is FI. If it fires up and appear to run fine, there is no need to drain the old gas. Just go for a big long ride to burn off the old gas. After a tank full of fresh unleaded, the engine won't know the old stuff was there.
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Old 03-23-2014, 12:30 AM   #31
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glad I found his thread , I have a 1300 v starr which has been stored fa few times ew months, but has been cranked during winter , it is fuel injected, but I will drain the tank with a siphon hose first before riding.
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Yeah, GSX650F is FI. If it fires up and appear to run fine, there is no need to drain the old gas. Just go for a big long ride to burn off the old gas. After a tank full of fresh unleaded, the engine won't know the old stuff was there.
Bad advice here. Once you "fire it up" gunk that's been collecting in the tank can move down and plug the fuel filter and the injectors.

As Patrick said out of the gate, safer to drain the tank, put new fuel in it with a cleaning additive. Moving forward, as many others pointed out, use a gas additive to prevent has from turning bad in the tank.
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I have seen at least three different products mentioned that should be used in each tank of fuel due to the ethanol that is currently in the gas. They were:

Startron
Seafoam
Chevron Techron Fuel System Cleaner


So here are a couple of questions:

1) Riding daily, is one better than the other?
2) Is one better than the others for bikes with carburetors or injectors?

Thanks for the information.
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Which is best

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seafoam is a quality product . i never liked the chevron stuff.
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Bad Gas

Which one works the best in carburetor and injector bikes? Why do you use over over the other?


Chevron Techron Fuel System Cleaner.
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If you ride daily you don't need any of them.
If the bike sits for periods of time I recommend a combination of both Startron and Seafoam to help minimize the effects of ethanol and it's additives.
Note that I said minimize because so far I have not found a preventative.
I recommend the Chevron fuel system cleaner IF you've either gotten a bad load of fuel or to help clean the fuel system after sitting awhile.
It will not remove heavy varnish, the only way to do that is to disassemble and soak/clean.
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Bad advice here. Once you "fire it up" gunk that's been collecting in the tank can move down and plug the fuel filter and the injectors.

As Patrick said out of the gate, safer to drain the tank, put new fuel in it with a cleaning additive. Moving forward, as many others pointed out, use a gas additive to prevent has from turning bad in the tank.
Ask yourself exactly what sort of gunk can collect in the tank and plug up the fuel filter and the injectors? What solids can materialize in the fuel tank enough to plug up filters and injectors... in 8months of storage? If the contamination is that bad, just siphoning out the gas isn't going to get rid of all of it anyway. If it is water condensation (more than likely), whatever that's in the tank will pass through the fuel line and get burnt up in the combustion process.

8month old gas isn't necessary bad enough to warrant going through the trouble of siphoning out. The gas that is in my track bunny is at least that old and I've been firing it up every month or so, including just last weekend. Much of it depends on where the bike/gasoline is stored and how it is stored. If it is sitting outdoors (say, in an apartment complex), that's one thing. Quite another if it has been sitting in an enclosed garage shielded from the elements.

Unless the charcoal canister has been dinked with, FI fuel systems these days are sealed fairly well from the outside atmosphere. That was the whole point with this sort of emissions control systems trapping the gasoline vapors within the canister and release them back into the fuel system when the engine is run again.

Older bikes have carbs that are generally vented to the atm, which is why they gunk up so quickly. The small amount of gasoline in the float bowl and in the tiny carb passages lose their higher fractions, turn into varnish and plug up. newer FI systems have none of these.

While I agree it is always safer to suck out the old gas and put in fresh stock, it does no harm to fire up the starter just to check. If the gas in the tank is stale, so too is the gas already in the fuel line. Pushing the same gas through the fuel line does nothing to make the situation better or worse. If the engine fires up and run fine, why bother?
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drain it for mower/weedeater gas
x2 on the plugs & filters

use stabil nex time

I used Stabil and use it every tank because I never know when it will be a few weeks before I get to burn another tank.
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Just a followup

I used Stabil and use it every tank because I never know when it will be a few weeks before I get to burn another tank.

Just that this time I injured my foot and a few weeks turned into 8 months.

I hadn't thought about the oil change but probably a good idea.

Hadn't even started it until I checked on the fuel on here.

thanks again for the good feedback!
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