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Old 03-11-2014, 09:46 PM   #1
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Thoughts on lithium batteries

I just got this one in the mail today
https://www.batteriesexpressinc.com/....aspx?id=41273

Anyone have one on their bike. I've seen shorai's and western powersports batteries that were similar.
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Old 03-11-2014, 10:00 PM   #2
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I have a shorai on my bike and it's light weight and don't need to charge since I got it.
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Old 03-12-2014, 01:00 AM   #3
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I got an antigravity 4cell on my cb350. heh
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Old 03-12-2014, 02:58 AM   #4
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When lithium batteries go bad they start fires. I don't readily understand why somebody would want that under their on a bike.
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Old 03-12-2014, 06:43 AM   #5
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When lithium batteries go bad they start fires. I don't readily understand why somebody would want that under their on a bike.
This is true but I haven't heard of a lot of problems with bike fires.
Overall I don't think the pros outweigh the cons. The cost and the risk of fire just to save a couple pounds?
Cut back on the burgers and fries. They have a place on a track bike but not worth it on the street.
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When lithium batteries go bad they start fires. I don't readily understand why somebody would want that under their on a bike.
Yet, most everybody have no problem keeping one 6" or less from their private parts... everywhere they go.
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Or touching their lips while inhaling vapor from some cheapo chinese manufactured e cig
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Cell phone batteries are more easily monitored. I had an iPhone 3 battery swell up while charging. I unplugged the charger before it got worse. Hidden under a seat, you'd never know there was an issue until it's too late.
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Go with a Lithium (Lipo) and LiFe (A123) Battery, have one on the race bike and never had a problem with it. And about the whole fire issue that was the older style type. I make my own 4 cell batteries and will never look back again! The antigravity 4cell are nice units also.
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I have a Lithium battery...it almost feels fake its so light
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Not all Lithium Ion batteries uses the same chemistry. LiFePO4 used in Shorai batts is thermally and chemically more stable than LiCoO2 typically used in consumer electronics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium...sphate_battery

The same type LiFePO4 batts have been used for years now in RC cars that get thrashed in ways no motorcycles should ever see. I put the Shorai on the same balancer/charger and monitor the individual cell voltages the same way as the RC batts. Perfectly safe? No. But I see riders routinely engage in far riskier behaviors than the use of LiFePO4 batts. Every rider's idea of proper risk management is different.

Of course, people naturally are afraid of things they don't perfectly understand. Lead acid will take far more abuse and remain inert, so would be better suited for those who prefer to drop in and forget.
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I use a alien one on my r6 and it sucks in the cold
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I use a alien one on my r6 and it sucks in the cold
I've seen recommended that you turn on the key for 30 seconds to a couple of minutes before needing to start the bike. Supposed to help "wake up" the battery to get full power out of it by drawing current via the headlights. Track/race bike though you may be out of luck.
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My only concern is texas heat. Like stated the older Lithium batteries dont handle 110+ degree summers to well.
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Go with a Lithium (Lipo) and LiFe (A123) Battery, have one on the race bike and never had a problem with it. And about the whole fire issue that was the older style type. I make my own 4 cell batteries and will never look back again! The antigravity 4cell are nice units also.
I've done this with laptop batteries. Open them up and it's just a bunch of AA rechargables. Love to see a write up on how you made your own as I was considering the same.
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