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Old 03-10-2014, 11:51 AM   #1
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I like it I wonder if we would be able to get parts for it. I thought it would be cheaper I probably wouldn't spend that much on a hyosung.
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I don't know that I'd ever buy another one new. I bought my GV650 new back in '07 basically because they offered a full 2 year, unlimited mileage warranty. Now, I wouldn't bother. There will be some used ones that pop up well under what they probably should be priced just because of the name.

I know enough people that parts shouldn't be much of an issue. Have contact with an ex-pat living in S. Korea who's pretty reliable: www.richardhyosunggvgt.com , and there are several other sites that are getting on board: www.whygostock.com .
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yeah at a little lower price I would be down I like the looks and would be cheap bike to commute.
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I just spent a week at the CERA Oil/Energy conference in Houston. One of the surprising things I heard is that parts coming from China are getting better than parts from Japan. We're seeing this whole shift in manufacturing just like how Japanese Strat guitars were originaly considered junk compared to US made ones. Now, those things from the 70s are considered some of the best made and people dont want Mexican made Strats. Cha Cha Cha CHANGES....
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Once China gets on board with improving quality the entire market will be more interesting. I think some of these (globally-speaking) large manufacturers are finally realizing that they're not going to be able to sell throw-away quality stuff in the US in any appreciable quantity.

Just like Hyundai and Kia here recently, I think some of these companies are finally deciding they want to run with the big boys in the US market. I look forward to what Hero/Buell do as well. I'm especially interested in this gas-generator/electric hybrid scooter I keep hearing about.
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Once China gets on board with improving quality the entire market will be more interesting. I think some of these (globally-speaking) large manufacturers are finally realizing that they're not going to be able to sell throw-away quality stuff in the US in any appreciable quantity.

Just like Hyundai and Kia here recently, I think some of these companies are finally deciding they want to run with the big boys in the US market. I look forward to what Hero/Buell do as well. I'm especially interested in this gas-generator/electric hybrid scooter I keep hearing about.
Ditto. It is they way I always felt hybrids should have been designed. There will be the 200hp scooter and the 400hp bike. Fing insane.
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I keep hearing about how efficient diesel engines are during steady-state operation... never understood why an electric car hasn't been built with a steady-state diesel generator. Seems like the best of both worlds. Maybe it's an issue with emissions in starting and stopping the diesel?
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I keep hearing about how efficient diesel engines are during steady-state operation... never understood why an electric car hasn't been built with a steady-state diesel generator. Seems like the best of both worlds. Maybe it's an issue with emissions in starting and stopping the diesel?
It has for the military. The auto/tech/energy industries like to maximize profits. So that means hitting the curve at the right time. They will delay products for years if it means they will make 10x the money down the road.
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Probably won't happen anytime soon. Just about every thing they produce is cheap . That is their whole niche in the Global market.
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Probably won't happen anytime soon. Just about every thing they produce is cheap . That is their whole niche in the Global market.
That's not what I hear at all. From talking to guys who actually deal with manufacturing over there, they are happy to produce whatever quality you're willing to pay for. The reason you have 17 different brands of seemingly "identical" bikes coming out of the same factory is quality control. You've got your domestic/regional client who demands "X quality" standard. Since someone is still willing to buy that lower quality , they sell "X quality" rejects to the next lower standard... and so on until you've got your $1999 249cc Phoenix Baja or whatever they sell at Pep Boys.

The impression I get is that once you've paid for your Japanese manufacturing quality standards +shipping & importation, you've got the price of a Japanese bike with a Chinese name and the stigma that goes with it.
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GW250: (from the article)
undersquare engine: 53.5mm bore X 55.2mm stroke
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24 horsepower / peak torque 16.2 lb-ft
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...Suzuki’s own data rating the CBR250 at 26 hp/16.89 lb-ft and Ninja 250 at 32.1 hp/16.2 lb-ft (the Ninja 300 claiming an even bigger advantage).
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Expect the GD250N to carry a pricetag similar to the GT250′s $3799 when it rolls into Hyosung showrooms.


So the GW makes less power, weighs about 15% (50 lbs) more, and is expected to cost more. Why would you choose the Suzuki? For only another $200 or so you could have the CBR.
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agreed but its a shame the suzuki is uglier than the hyosung
...and of course there's that, but looks are subjective. It would be hard to debate the Suzi looks better than the CBR though.

Isn't KTM supposed to be coming out with a 250 sometime soon as well? I kind of like that the lower-displacement market has so many choices now.
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...and of course there's that, but looks are subjective. It would be hard to debate the Suzi looks better than the CBR though.

Isn't KTM supposed to be coming out with a 250 sometime soon as well? I kind of like that the lower-displacement market has so many choices now.
Which is awesome. Hopefully it will become a competitive market. We have been missing out on some really cool bikes like the yamaha sr400, Which is coming here next year.

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So the GW makes less power, weighs about 15% (50 lbs) more, and is expected to cost more. Why would you choose the Suzuki? For only another $200 or so you could have the CBR.
Twin vs single. The Suzuki also looks like a more comfortable bike with a bigger boot and cushy seat. Has a passanger grab rail and is probably the better commuter which might be the target market here.
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