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Old 02-27-2014, 02:39 PM   #41
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My thought is when you are holding your moto2 world championship then you can say you're bored with a 250. That is if your goal is performance. If you are just a commuter then a 250 will get old. I'd want something with a lot of tq and midrange for everyday commuting. For the track I want good suspension tires and brake.
Yeah, at the end of the day, it just depends on what you're trying to accomplish on a bike. If you just want to go fast in a straight line, get a big bike. I'm not here to try to convince you on which bike to get, just giving my opinion.
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Old 02-27-2014, 02:44 PM   #42
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I'm so tired of this "get bored of a 250 in a few months" I've had mine for almost a year and on these group rides, I'm keeping up with the big bikes. At MSRH, I'm passing up big bikes.
Truth.

I rode a ninja 500 for the first 3.5 years of riding and straight down-graded my buddies on 600s through the curves.


Take the advice here and get a klx250f, drz400sm, ninja250/300/500/650, or sv650.

Also, just FYI ninja 650 and sv650 are NOT as powerfull as a 600 supersport. Learn about engine configurations (singles, twins, vtwins, inline 4's) before buying a bike. Big differences between motors of very similar displacements
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I'm so tired of this "get bored of a 250 in a few months" I've had mine for almost a year and on these group rides, I'm keeping up with the big bikes. At MSRH, I'm passing up big bikes.
Its not that there boring, its just nice to have a little more power. Keeping up with "big" bikes that cruise at 100 while a 250 rider is full tuck and redlining can suck sometimes. 250 in corners all day will win with the right rider, but Houston is flat and straight highway.
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I don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet, but the "perfect" bike is going to be different for everyone, and as gets stated a lot, "you're looking for your first bike, not your last."

It's difficult when buying your first bike to know exactly what you want, because you have no experience. Even if you get exactly what you want, the type of riding you do predominantly may change drastically over the next year, leading to a different bike being "perfect" for you.

Personally, I've found that I appreciate sporty bikes, but I do about 25k per year commuting, so my primary bike is a classic standard seating position, large displacement bike with an engine proven to handle 150-200k miles before needing major rebuild work. I could not (and would not want to try to) have handled this bike without several years of experience, nor is it a bike I ever would have thought I wanted. That's what my first 5 years of riding taught me though.
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Old 02-27-2014, 03:08 PM   #45
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Its not that there boring, its just nice to have a little more power. Keeping up with "big" bikes that cruise at 100 while a 250 rider is full tuck and redlining can suck sometimes. 250 in corners all day will win with the right rider, but Houston is flat and straight highway.
Yeah, that's the only negative side of the 250 but majority of the time going 90 is sufficient. Again, that depends on the person.
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Yeah, but an inexperienced rider on a 'Busa can freak out and twist the throttle and he will end up on one wheel, rubber side up! I know I have a cruiser and its a 950, but that won't happen on mine. I twist the throttle, it goes fast(ish) on two wheels. Rubber side down.
This is actually more likely to happen on a ss than a Busa
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all i can say is ... you will drop it and you will very likely crash it at some point so buy something thats cheap enough to drop and small enough to not kill you easily. i started on a 450 and though i would never crash.. dropped it once on gravel then was in a crash and in a coma for a week. if i was on a 600 i would likely have been in the ground and not in the hospital
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I probably wouldn't be alive if I had gotten a supersport in high school.


no, not probably, definitely.

I'd get a motard. Two bikes in one, relatively cheap, you will probably dump it at some point, whether dirt or street, lots of fun, and of course it is still a motorcycle. And you're still in high school. So it will get you chicks guaranteed. Then in a few years, in college, you get a supersport (if you still want one) and then, when that douche bag college kid who thinks he's the cause he just bought a ragged out CBR for his first bike talks to you for not starting on a super, you get to smoke his cause you actually have a few years of real riding experience and understand that riding a motorcycle isn't JUST about looking cool and cranking the throttle on a straightaway.
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I'm actually being flamed right now on the R6 forum for telling a noob to get a 250 instead of a 600 for his first bike.... :smh:
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Okay guys ive decided, im pretty postotive im gonna go with a Motard. Now the new question is which one? i dont like the ones that have the trail looks to them, i like the ones that look a MX bike. And i want one that will have some speed too, it would be 70% off road/ 30% Road.
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I'm so tired of this "get bored of a 250 in a few months" I've had mine for almost a year and on these group rides, I'm keeping up with the big bikes. At MSRH, I'm passing up big bikes.
well if your riding with Banky my fiance on her 250 can pass him too.
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Its not that there boring, its just nice to have a little more power. Keeping up with "big" bikes that cruise at 100 while a 250 rider is full tuck and redlining can suck sometimes. 250 in corners all day will win with the right rider, but Houston is flat and straight highway.
well, your first mistake is DOING 100+ MPH ON PUBLIC ROADS!!!!!



IF anyone ever gets bored with a 250 i just remind them that its the rider thats fast, not the bike.

And , a modern 250 will still out run 80% of all cars on the road.
If you get bored with one in a few months you dont need a bigger bike, you need better riding skills.
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Different strokes for different folks. I wouldn't give two about riding a 250. Never ridden one and can't see any reason I ever would want to
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my first bike was a 1996 katana 600 that I got when I was 16, but I had ridden dirt bikes since I was really young. I say start in the dirt. if you don't have a truck use the graduation money for that. the dirt is way more fun than the street IMO.
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IF anyone ever gets bored with a 250 i just remind them that its the rider thats fast, not the bike.

And , a modern 250 will still out run 80% of all cars on the road.
If you get bored with one in a few months you dont need a bigger bike, you need better riding skills.
Who said public roads?

As for trading up to something bigger its not always because they want more top speed. Some people want more torque, low end, or simply something different.
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i highsided a crf80 and saw my life flash before my eyes...

ppl act like no one ever died or was paralized on a small displacement bike before...smh

gear up and whatever you get just respect it.
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Okay guys ive decided, im pretty postotive im gonna go with a Motard. Now the new question is which one? i dont like the ones that have the trail looks to them, i like the ones that look a MX bike. And i want one that will have some speed too, it would be 70% off road/ 30% Road.
Find a WR450, CRF450X or CRF250X. You might also consider a WRX250.

All these have wide ratio transmission and have an "MX" look and all have speed.

That is, if I am understanding properly what you like and don't like.
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i highsided a crf80 and saw my life flash before my eyes...

ppl act like no one ever died or was paralized on a small displacement bike before...smh

gear up and whatever you get just respect it.
This would be a great argument on why to start big. I hear more people say there more scared of a 50cc vs the big bikes. Start on a busa so you wont be as scared right.
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Who said public roads?

As for trading up to something bigger its not always because they want more top speed. Some people want more torque, low end, or simply something different.
FAir enough. Maybe i misunderstood when you said this "...but Houston is flat and straight highway." in the context of "keeping up with the bigger bikes"
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