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Old 02-16-2014, 09:04 PM   #1
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Painting my 1st track bike- DIY or not?

So I got my first track bike a few weeks ago, and am really wanting to paint it/get it painted before I take it to the track. I know, it's a track bike, but I'd like to personalize it a bit, and a red/black/yellow/blue bike with my black and white leathers/boots/helmet just clashes too much for me. I'd like to keep it simple- black and white only. Everything that's black I'd leave black, and everything else I'd want white. Pics are attached.

My question is this: for someone with very little painting experience and very little equipment, is this kind of thing doable? I have no idea where to start- how to sand the plastics, how to tape up the openings in the tank, what kind of paint to use, etc. It doesn't have to be showroom perfect, but I don't know if I could pull it off without buying a ton of stuff- I'd have to do it outside/on the patio of my apartment... I know a guy who says he'd loan me his compressor and paint gun, I have a sander, a drop cloth, not sure what else I'd need though.

I'm not opposed to paying somebody, if it's reasonably cheap. Shouldn't take long at all for a pro, does anybody know who to go to?
What do you guys think? If I decide to tackle it, any good step-by-step guides out there?
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Old 02-16-2014, 09:05 PM   #2
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Also, forgot to add: it came with a red tank, looks like it's in much better condition (factory red paint) I'd probably take the yellow tank off and paint the red one white.
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Paint it urself.... Dont waste money on paint for your first track bike....my .02
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Old 02-16-2014, 10:10 PM   #5
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Thanks, I know these guys get great reviews on the forums, but there's no way I'm going all the way to Spring for this. That's an hour and a half each way, and that's with no traffic. Anybody significantly closer? I thought about just asking at an auto paint shop or something here on the island.
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RATTLE CAN IT.... it's a track bike and your first one at that i'm not trying to be negative but you will crash it everyone does. spend the money on a good paint job when you have gotten better at the track. when you do hit up Dave @ 380 Racing and Paint hands down the most kickass painter and super super super friendly guy!!
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do it yourself, even look at a couple u tube vids if you have to.
Its easy, can do it with rattle can or buy a small gun and shoot it that way.
Get some blue masking tape and newspaper masking and have fun, worst case, you hate it when done and you can do it over.
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CarbonJames rattles his several years ago...I thought it looked pretty slick for a "cheapo job"

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Thanks for the advice. Looks like I'm gonna try to rattle can it. Any tips for sanding off the old red paint? Plastics and red tank?
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Don't sand it off man, just scuff it up good with wet sanding 600 grit, then prime and paint.
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Don't sand it off man, just scuff it up good with wet sanding 600 grit, then prime and paint.
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, I wouldn't even mess with the primer.
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400 grit to smooth and blend any rough edges and scuff everything up so primer will adhere. two coats of primer and then wet sand with 600 grit. make sure the parts are completely clean and dry before laying down three coats of paint. start with a light coat, followed by a medium coat and finish it with a heavier coat. don't spray so heavy that it runs. practice with a can of dollar store paint on something scrap, first. use long, even, back and forth strokes. YOU'RE PAINTING, NOT COLORING.
i've used nearly every brand of paint available and found that Krylon is the best, by far, for the ameture painter.
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you can lay down a few coats of Krylon clear when you're done painting but a brushed on varnish makes a more durable finish. you brush it on and the brush strokes level out before it dries, leaving you with a thick, smooth and strong finished clear coat. it sounds strange but it works. i used this method on an old drag bike and the thing was in good shape for twenty years.
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one last tip; humidity is your enemy!! with your being on the Island, the humidity will probably never be low enough to do painting outside. paint indoors if at all possible. it gets me in trouble with the wife but i paint indoors when she's gone............LOL
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I would rattle can the pieces flat white, I wouldn't really mess with primer unless you sand it down to the base, paint likes to stick to paint, it usually doesn't like to stick to the base material witch is mostly what a primer is for, and a uniform base color witch might not be a bad idea with a color like white... maybe use a high build sandable primer if you have to have it really flat but I wouldn't mess with it on a flat color tho, you can get away with ALOT more if you paint it a flat color, and you can touch it up with a quick spray if you scratch it later without having to redo the whole panel, and its a lil different imo... just go over everything by hand with 400grit to rough it up don't use anything powered you WILL do more damage than good, clean everything VERY WELL. prep (sanding and cleaning) is everything in a good paint job. then once its all clean and dry, spray on light layers of color, you don't have to have a solid layer of color over the whole thing on the first coat... lots of light thin layers. until its solid then do a few more layers to give it some durability thickness and be done. take your time... nothing will you off more than sanding out a run cuz you were impatient. if you choose to go with a gloss color there will be ALOT more sanding and a few more steps to do it right. but I personally think for a track bike, flat is the way to go.
I have used Dupli-Color in the past with good success (automotive paint, go figure), rustoleum sometimes sprays funny but will never come off. krylon sometimes sprays funny too and doesn't seem to hold up as well. if you use a primer use the same brand primer with the paint, the formulas within the brand are made to work together. also stay away from the cans with the weird nozzles. get the old school ones and get a $5 spray gun adaptor handle.

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You could drop it off to me near hobby airport, but that's still a ways from you. If you're using the same fairings, i wouldn't even bother with primer. Scuff the whole thing, tape off whatever you plan on keeping black, paint it and clear coat the whole thing. Take your time, I've seen some impressive rattle can jobs. Only problem is, any painter later down the road is going to be about the rattle can. It's tough to take the spray paint off and they can't spray regular paint over the rattle can. That's my .02.
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