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Old 02-13-2014, 07:00 PM   #1
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input on Gs500

I've been interested in getting another bike but I rather not get another 600 right now. I am interested in the Gs500 does anyone know is there much power difference between the gs500 and ninja 250.
Pro and cons of the Gs500 would be nice to know also.
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If your going for a 500.. IMO hands down a ninja 500....the one I had was a hella fun bike.

Gs500 newer versions = ~47hp
Ninja 500 = ~50hp
ninja 250 = ~37hp
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Im going to start out by saying I have never ridden ninja 500, but have owned the gs500 so slightly bias.
I loved my GS, and it was an awesome bike that started every time just would not idle. A lot of the gs have that problem just like every bike has its problems. When I was looking for a bike I was looking at both the ninja and the GS, and the deciding factor was looks. THe ninja is ugly and the GS is sexy. The ninja is going to be a little faster and has the positive neutral finder. The GS is air cooled while I think the ninja is water cooled. style is really the biggest deciding factor as most bikes from are pretty much "bullet" proof.
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also as far as power the gs has more torque then a 250 but not really a higher top speed.
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I don't like my GS500, but I don't like the Ninja 500 either. I'd just save up and get an SV650.
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I'm loving the 250. It's slow on the straights, but I can go into turns a lot faster.
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also as far as power the gs has more torque then a 250 but not really a higher top speed.
Bingo.

Former 250 AND gs500 owner here.
I liked my GS, kind of wish i would have kept it, honestly. For around town its a blast and just what you need if you live in a smaller town (like myself).
I liked the simplicity, and if you're looking to learn more about "working" on a motorcycle, its a great place to start. There is lots of "cheap" and fun mods you can do: r6 shock, katana rear wheel, fork items are cheap, and parts are plentiful. KN air filter, all manner of exhausts, so on and so on.
Check out gstwins.com for more info.

CONS: Carbs. And tires are a small selection, unless you upgrade the wheels with katana wheels off ebay.

Heck -1 +2 and that little thing will wheelie for days!
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I put 13,000 miles on an 89 GS500e in Houston. It was my first bike. Really enjoyed it. It is a great starter bike.
Have a 919 now and would never go back. Should have upgraded sooner. Not sure why you would spend money to mod a GS500e. Just save money to upgrade or be happy with what it is.
Mine topped out at 105.

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I put 13,000 miles on an 89 GS500e in Houston. It was my first bike. Really enjoyed it. It is a great starter bike.
Have a 919 now and would never go back. Should have upgraded sooner. Not sure why you would spend money to mod a GS500e. Just save money to upgrade or be happy with what it is.
Mine topped out at 105.

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I've had 5 or 6 GS over the year (some how). as far as high way driving goes, it'll help you get out of the way and around traffic. I've had 2 2008 hyosung gtr 250's thats what i'm comparing it to. Also it'll be alittle heavier so it'll be alitt more solid at higher speeds.
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I took a hard look at the ninja 250, gs500, ex500 and a brief look at just about every "beginner" bike out there...

I ended up with the SV650, because it's about the same price, fuel injected, water cooled, huge aftermarket and support, known to last over 100,000 miles, can very easily cruise at 70-80 with more power left over if you for some reason need it...I'm missing a few things, but you get the idea. It's a more modern bike.

With that being said, what's your budget? I noticed a lot of people selling ninja 250's want way over blue book value and people still buy them quick. You can get a lot newer and better condition GS500 for the same price, a lot more easily. Also if your budget is 2000-3000, it's going to be hard to find an 08 or newer. The first Gen. is FUGLY, I don't care who you are. The GS500 is a whole lot better looking than the first gen ninja.

If your budget is somewhere near 4000, I would say hands down, ninja 300. No contest really.
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Well, if you're like me, you buy a gs500 to learn about working on bikes and how to do stuff without messing up a more expensive bike. I paid $900 for mine.
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You are not supposed to ride Level 1 anymore at MSRH .....
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I put 10k on a ninja 500, I agree it is one if the ugliest bikes out there. They haven't changed the styling since 96. That being said it's a great bike with absolutely zero problems. I was able to hit 120mph on it after a very very long straight. Plenty of power for any type of riding. It is also plagued with poor tire selection.
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I'm level 2. I get blasted on the straights though.
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I'm level 2. I get blasted on the straights though.

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Well, if you're like me, you buy a gs500 to learn about working on bikes and how to do stuff without messing up a more expensive bike. I paid $900 for mine.
Going back and reading his post again it seems as if he really just wanted a comparison between the ninja 250(which he used to own) and the gs500.

I've read that there isn't much difference in performance, but the GS does have a lot more low end power. better for cruising around town.

Look at the 1/4 mile times. They are really close.

People talk about how rock solid the GS is, but then you read about the little "issues" it has and the maintenance intervals are pretty short. I've also read that the air cooled engine starts leaking and having problems for most people when it gets over 30-40k miles on it. for The biggest thing that put me off from buying it was having to do valve checks/adjustments every...what was it, 3500 miles?
Not bashing it, these are just things I've read.

Ninjeff- How is the difference in handling? Suspension? Maintenance?

Isn't he GS500 chain old school, non o-ring?
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Yea i know he wanted a comparo between the two. Having owned the two myself, i thought i'd give some perspective.

I found it to be exactly as stated here from others. Much better grunt down low by lacking in top end speed. Compared to the 250, its a better "around town" bike as you stated. From light to light its better and more fun than the 250.

That being said, if i was doing track stuff with it, i'd go 250 all the way.
I found the gs500 a bit "numb" on turn in comparatively, but its a welcome trade off for the increased comfort. It still handles well, and is more agile than a 600.


As for maintaining it, i put about 5k miles on mine in a few months before getting a screaming deal on a ninja 650r.
I changed just about everything but -being honest- it wasn't because i HAD to per se' more that i just really wanted to learn how to do it. Thats why I personally, picked up the gs500 for my second bike. To learn mechanical stuff.

Parts were cheap and easy. I mean its about as simple of a motorcycle as you can get.

Mine had 13k on the odo, and it wasn't leaking a bit. Valves needed adjusted but at 13k and it was a 1997 that was no surprise.
I never had issues with the air cooled motor, BUT, i'm living in Illinois right now so we don't have NEARLY the same -summers that we're used to in Houston. YMMV.


OP, if you DO pick one up, i recommend ditching the stock suspension. pick up an r6 stock rear (on ebay cheap) and swap out the fork springs and you'll have a really good handling bike.


That being said, if you arent interested in "modifying" the bike at all, you would be better served with the Ninja 500.
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