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Old 02-11-2014, 10:52 PM   #1
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do i have a short? 2011 r1

I've been having an issue with my bike killing batteries. This last one made it through a ride, put it on charge when done, and by next weekend it was dead. I read that if you remove a battery terminal and run a dmm from the post to the connector, if you have voltage then you have a short. I started removing fuses to see if the voltage went to 0. Only when I pulled the 50 amp fuse did the voltage drop. Is this method accurate?

When I first started having the issue, I checked voltage while revd, and it was at 14.5 or so. I'm not positive if that rules out the stator r/r or not, but thought I would throw that in.

I have removed all after market electronics except integrated tail light, which I had for 2 years before the issue.

The bike is a 2011 R1. I need help please. And thank you for all help received.
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Old 02-11-2014, 10:58 PM   #2
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To clarify, is the bike killing the battery or the charger?
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Check charging output both at idle and at 5000 rpm, both with the engine cold and hot.
You should see at least 12.8 volts at idle and at least 13.2 volts at 5000 rpm.
That's minimum. Max you should see 14.2 at 5000 rpm, and even that's a bit high.
When you did the draw test, how did you do it?
Remove the negative cable, set the meter on mA and put the meter inline between the negative cable and the negative battery post. How many mA of draw are you seeing with the key off?
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If you had 14.5 volts when the issue first started. The problem is your starter. Common prob on 09+r1s the starter is sucking up all the power and barely spinning. Which makes it seem like a bad battery/charging system.
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So if it is the starter, replace it? I just had the battery tested, and is testing at 211 cranking amps. So evidently according to them it is good.

Taking my meter home today to test the if it is drawing while off. Under the seat there is a solenoid (I think) that stays clicking after it tries to start for a while. Could that be going out?
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I'm drawing 0 mamps. No short.

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Ok, 13.5 idle 14.2 at 5k.
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I've been having an issue with my bike killing batteries. This last one made it through a ride, put it on charge when done, and by next weekend it was dead.
a few questions for you.

1.) how many batteries has the bike gone thru and in how much time?
2.) how long did each of the previous batteries last?
3.) were you putting the previous batteries on the same charger?
4.) which brand and type of charger are you using? where did you get it?

obviously, i'm questioning whether it's the charger killing the batteries, or not, but by answering all of the questions we might be more helpful in pin pointing your problem if it's not the charger.
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if you're storing the bike with it on charge and you are not using a motorcycle specific charger, you are most definitely over charging the battery and probably killing it. the charge rate for a motorcycle is less than that of a cars battery.if the charger isn't for a motorcycle, it won't cut off when fully charged.
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First battery lasted 2 years. Now 2 in 6 months. It is a smart charger, multiple settings, trickle for motorcycles. I personally think the charger is bad. At this point the battery is toast and will need to be replaced. I charge it then start. Haven't key it run with the charger attached.

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First battery lasted 2 years. Now 2 in 6 months. It is a smart charger, multiple settings, trickle for motorcycles. I personally think the charger is bad. At this point the battery is toast and will need to be replaced. I charge it then start. Haven't key it run with the charger attached.
this post is a bit hard to fully comprehend but I think you're right about the charger being the culprit. buy a name brand " Battery Tender" or just run your bike every week to use it's own charging system to do the work.
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