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Old 02-10-2014, 10:40 PM   #21
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Yep have seen them take a knife to powdercoating on an expensive chopper.

If there is no visible vin they can seize the bike right there on the spot & will destroy it unless a vin can be found
What's the law that gives them this super power? I'm few days away from powder coating my 848 frame.

And a knife won't faze powder coat so they wasted their time with that.
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What's the law that gives them this super power? I'm few days away from powder coating my 848 frame.

And a knife won't faze powder coat so they wasted their time with that.
Powder coat won't faze a tilt bed
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Take a dremel to the powder to get down to the vin if you want.
or tape off a rectangle and then carefully wipe with acetone or thinner.
When powdering, I always use a thin strip of high heat tape over the number, then powder and peel tape later and cover bare metal with clear nail polish or a good coat of wax, either way.
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Old 02-11-2014, 10:57 AM   #26
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Hasn't ever happened to me, but it wouldn't bother me if they did.

In related news, when I had my first bike (89 Hurricane) back in '92, the cops showed up at the ER after I had a crash. Started interrogating me about theft. I was a bit confused, since I had bought it used from a dealer in San Antonio.
Evidently the bike had been stolen at one point and recovered, but never updated in their system.
Lucky for me I had the title in my wallet for whatever reason.
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Old 02-11-2014, 01:12 PM   #27
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I've had it happen twice. Most recent was last month. Checked mine and 2 others I was riding with. The other time was a few years ago.
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Old 02-11-2014, 01:42 PM   #28
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Hasn't ever happened to me, but it wouldn't bother me if they did.

In related news, when I had my first bike (89 Hurricane) back in '92, the cops showed up at the ER after I had a crash. Started interrogating me about theft. I was a bit confused, since I had bought it used from a dealer in San Antonio.
Evidently the bike had been stolen at one point and recovered, but never updated in their system.
Lucky for me I had the title in my wallet for whatever reason.
I've been semi-worried about that. Except for one thing, it was stolen FROM me... so hopefully my name would pop up and clear me.

Mainly worried while a cop followed me for an extended period of time when I was trailering the bike back from the impound/tow yard. With torn up seat, busted/crooked mirrors, bent up plate, etc etc. I just KNEW it couldn't have possibly been updated in the system yet. Unless they showed the bike as recovered when the arrest was made... a week prior (-hole tow yard, no call, charging stupid high daily storage fee)


The one time I was stopped while riding, barely even looked at the bike. Doubt he even looked at the stickers to know what make/model bike it was... unless he just knew Kawis pretty well.
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What's the law that gives them this super power? I'm few days away from powder coating my 848 frame.

And a knife won't faze powder coat so they wasted their time with that.
Art. 18.16. PREVENTING CONSEQUENCES OF THEFT. Any person has a right to prevent the consequences of theft by seizing any personal property that has been stolen and bringing it, with the person suspected of committing the theft, if that person can be taken, before a magistrate for examination, or delivering the property and the person suspected of committing the theft to a peace officer for that purpose. To justify a seizure under this article, there must be reasonable ground to believe the property is stolen, and the seizure must be openly made and the proceedings had without delay.


Sec. 31.11. TAMPERING WITH IDENTIFICATION NUMBERS. (a) A person commits an offense if the person:
(1) knowingly or intentionally removes, alters, or obliterates the serial number or other permanent identification marking on tangible personal property; or
(2) possesses, sells, or offers for sale tangible personal property and:
(A) the actor knows that the serial number or other permanent identification marking has been removed, altered, or obliterated; or
(B) a reasonable person in the position of the actor would have known that the serial number or other permanent identification marking has been removed, altered, or obliterated.
(b) It is an affirmative defense to prosecution under this section that the person was:
(1) the owner or acting with the effective consent of the owner of the property involved;

(2) a peace officer acting in the actual discharge of official duties; or
(3) acting with respect to a number assigned to a vehicle by the Texas Department of Transportation or the Texas Department of Motor Vehicles, as applicable, and the person was:
(A) in the actual discharge of official duties as an employee or agent of the department; or
(B) in full compliance with the rules of the department as an applicant for an assigned number approved by the department.
(c) Property involved in a violation of this section may be treated as stolen for purposes of custody and disposition of the property.
(d) An offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor.
(e) In this section, "vehicle" has the meaning given by Section 541.201, Transportation Code.

Basically if the Ofc can not ID the bike/veh, it can be impounded until the id of the bike/veh is established. An example is the VIN covered, filed off, vin plate missing, etc, and ofc can take it from the driver/rider/owner in order to identify it. No storage fees. There will be a hearing with a Judge where you can pres
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Old 02-11-2014, 06:45 PM   #30
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And Ive had Conroe PD check the vin on a ZX9 I had on a trailer. And Im a fat aZn....
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Old 02-11-2014, 06:57 PM   #31
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Had them check vin on street bike when pulled over. On stunt bike while in the back of my truck and dirt bike in the back of truck.
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Old 02-11-2014, 07:18 PM   #32
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, I didnt realize that so many people had their VINS verified, but I guess I have only been pulled over on a bike 2-3 times.
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Oh yea by 3 Seabrook cop cars, 2 Clear Lake Shores cop cars. Someone called in a bike stolen that looked like mine in Seabrook, about the same time I was leaving a bar one Thursday night. Seabrook followed me all the way from nasa 1 to CLS waiting on back up. Yea he had lots of back up, I knew I was ok so I was cool with it all the lights.
Ran vin came back to me and the cops had to drop their ready to attack mode.

Cops have no sence of humor while drama is gong on lol. After they found out I was the owner of the bike I senced a feeling they were a lil let down.
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