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Old 02-03-2014, 10:02 AM   #21
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I don't think I have called anybody, anything.
It's not that calling somebody a drama queen is so bad, it's that you have made a big deal out of defending critical mass with a passion, frequently claiming that those who disagree don't understand. Inferring that it's over our heads or that we just don't get it. I think it's possible the reverse is true.
Then you start another thread, again dragging critical mass out, obviously stirring the pot. And then you call somebody else a drama queen?
Maybe some quiet introspection is in order. Ask yourself why this is so important to you in spite of the fact that very few have spoken up in support of your arguments. Sure, going along with the popular view isn't always the best way. I realize that the majority can be wrong.
But it isn't common. Usually when most people feel a certain way about a subject, it's for good reason.

In any case, I'm not bitter at all. In fact, the subject means little to me except that it makes very little sense to have bicycles in traffic. Maybe if the city had been designed from the beginning to include bicycles as a common means of transportation it would be different.
As it is, this country pretty much gave up on bicycle infrastructure when Henry Ford introduced mass production to the world. People stopped using bicycles for daily transportation and consequently the roads were built with cars in mind.
Unfortunately, we didn't amend the laws to take bikes out of the equation as we went along. Now there are quite a few riders that abuse the laws allowing bicycles on roadways by failing to follow traffic laws, occupying entire lanes (I've even seen bicyclists take up the whole road out in the country) and often restricting traffic flow.
Now the more militant have cleverly gotten the casual riders to join them in a protest by giving it a cool name and turning the whole thing into a rolling party in the name of trying to sway public opinion in their favor.
I predict if it continues it will backfire as the ignorant masses that don't understand and just don't get it, will push back. When they do, critical mass will go away, just as any ill conceived "protest" should.
Maybe someday, someone will be able to sway opinion of the unwashed masses to break loose with public funds and build those bike paths and bike lanes you hope for. Maybe critical mass will get the job done. Maybe not, time will tell.
I get what you are saying, inspite of the way I come across when posting I'm a very reasonable person and see both sides of an argument. For the most part I keep a very open mind.

Critical Mass hass been around for 20 year or so... It has made impact in many cities and shifted policy.

In the cities where they have build better infrastructure for every commuter on the road, the Critical Mass has died down since there is no more use for it...

The thinking that roads are only for cars is the problem which I keep telling you and you keep ignoring it. The road is for EVERYONE wether you like it or not.


Concerning the thread starting: it is not drama. I saw the article and it is moto related and was wondering what the rest of the MC community that does not frequent the "off topic" part of the forum would think. It's a good conversation to have since Motorcycle awarenes is still an issue.
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So the motorcycle critical mess will pretty much consist of taco's...booze...BS .. And public nusance ?? Like the bicycle critical mess??...
Did you even read the article?

And you are confusing Critical Mass with the group ride I do... Putatention.
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yeah sorry...drunk posting.

Anyways the whole "idea" is a joke. All it would do is arouse more contempt for the motorcycle community. Everyone is "aware" that there are motorcycles and even bicyclists on the roads...they just don't give a . Do you think rubbing it in their faces is going to suddenly make them care more?
Then it will happen until the "don't give a " mentality changes.
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Old 02-03-2014, 01:22 PM   #24
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It would be cool if the motorcyclists would critical mass the bicyclists by getting out in front of them on the same day and going as slow as possible.
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It would be cool if the motorcyclists would critical mass the bicyclists by getting out in front of them on the same day and going as slow as possible.
Psssst! Maybe if you quit feeding it, it will go somewhere else and eat.
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1367338125 biker hits cyclists
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lets organize a critical mass and lane split down i10 in morning traffic, but only above 5 mph over what the flow of traffic is going....wait they have HOV....okay maybe not a good idea...

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It would be cool if the motorcyclists would critical mass the bicyclists by getting out in front of them on the same day and going as slow as possible.
That would be cool.

It wouldn't bother us.
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or a load of pedestrians to walk in front of them
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or a load of pedestrians to walk in front of them
We'd welcome them too...
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Hey, maybe the stunters could get the bicycles to shut down the roads so they could stunt with a captive audience.
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So everyone in this thread, except a few, is against large motorcycle group rides? The article just states, that at a given time and date motorcyclist are getting together to ride and anyone who wants to join can.

Sure they are doing it on a busier roadway. It is no different than any large rallies or other motorcycle events.

I understand that most of you are just trying to bust Ivan's in fun, a few of you seem to have some real issues.
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So everyone in this thread, except a few, is against large motorcycle group rides? The article just states, that at a given time and date motorcyclist are getting together to ride and anyone who wants to join can.

Sure they are doing it on a busier roadway. It is no different than any large rallies or other motorcycle events.

I understand that most of you are just trying to bust Ivan's in fun, a few of you seem to have some real issues.
Well my problem is.... I haven't read the article..lol

And it's fun bustin Ivan's ..
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article doesnt say much to really say anything about it. If they do not brake the law that is completely okay with me. Now if they start running the lights making everyone wait for them and taking both directions of traffic then no. Why the people off that you are trying to get a message across. Maybe better to do something for the community and look like normal human beings on the news. Not douche it up and look like a bunch of idiots that no one will respect.
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article doesnt say much to really say anything about it. If they do not brake the law that is completely okay with me. Now if they start running the lights making everyone wait for them and taking both directions of traffic then no. Why the people off that you are trying to get a message across. Maybe better to do something for the community and look like normal human beings on the news. Not douche it up and look like a bunch of idiots that no one will respect.
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