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Old 04-24-2007, 03:28 PM   #81
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this seems to be a matter of mere opinion... the above statements only fall true if someone is in a hurry. But what about the folks that do these things "just because" or weren't necessarily in a hurry. Does that classify as impatience? I think it would more accurately be lack of caution. And that could be for many reasons, not just impatience. Yes, impatience can cause wrecks, but I think it might be a little naive to say that is the sole reason why people do these things.
Call it what you want, impatience (which I still believe is the root cause more often than not) or "just because" (because why? - there is always a reason) or "lack of caution" - whatever you call it, these actions can and do cause bad reactions.

How many times have you heard someone say "well, I was in hurry or late..." - right after an incident of some kind?

If they weren't impatient, they would not have been in a hurry - they would have just done whatever and it would have been ok, even if they did get there five minutes later or was not the first in line, etc.
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Old 04-24-2007, 03:33 PM   #82
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By legal definition, there are very few accidents - mostly it's unintended results from some action(s). Jordan did not have an "accident" at all - the wreck was the unintended result from twisting that right wrist too far for too long.
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Actually "The American Heritage dictionary" defines fate as: 1. the supposed force or power that determines events. 2. a final result; outcome.

I'm simply saying the choices u make as apart of ur "free will" are part of the predetermination of ur fate. U make the choices, and those choices are apart of ur fate.

Going back to the whole driving blind concept. Yeah I could go out and choose with "free will" to drive blind, but it will be my fate to either die or just cause an accident with serious injury, either way it's the plan i was given!
AHHHH...now I think I understand where you're coming from. Very interesting point of view!
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By legal definition, there are very few accidents - mostly it's unintended results from some action(s). Jordan did not have an "accident" at all - the wreck was the unintended result from twisting that right wrist too far for too long.
BY LEGAL DEFINITION MY DEAR AN ACCIDENT IS DEFINED AS:
1a. an unexpected, undesirable event. b. An unforseen incident. 2. Chance; fortitude

That's exactly what this was, unexpected.
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By legal definition, there are very few accidents - mostly it's unintended results from some action(s). Jordan did not have an "accident" at all - the wreck was the unintended result from twisting that right wrist too far for too long.
:laughing6 :laughing6 :laughing6 that is what an accident is...UNINTENDED!!!

"that's not chocolate ice cream, that's a frozen dairy substance with a chocolate flavor!" SAME THING!!!!

as you said.... "call it what you will"
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AHHHH...now I think I understand where you're coming from. Very interesting point of view!
R u just patronizing me :laughing6 or do u really understand me!
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:laughing6 :laughing6 :laughing6 that is what an accident is...UNINTENDED!!!

"that's not chocolate ice cream, that's a frozen dairy substance with a chocolate flavor!" SAME THING!!!!

as you said.... "call it what you will"
U see I had to pull out the dictionary on that one :laughing6 :laughing6 !!

This we agree on!!!
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R u just patronizing me :laughing6 or do u really understand me!
not patronizing at all....your earlier posts weren't effectively conveying your stance to me, (hence why I kept pushing you) and now I understand what you're saying. I like to understand how people think the way they do. Now it is pretty clear to me why you think the way you do.
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not patronizing at all....your earlier posts weren't effectively conveying your stance to me, (hence why I kept pushing you) and now I understand what you're saying. I like to understand how people think the way they do. Now it is pretty clear to me why you think the way you do.
Whew good I was running outta ideas!!! :laughing6
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I'm with Candy on this one...we all know we will die at some point in our lives. It can therefore be said that we are destined for death, fated for death. We know there are various causes to these events: Heart attack, Stroke, Cancer, Aids, etc. We manage our behaviours in a way that acts to prevent certain things as listed before, eating habits for instance or exercise or using protection during or not having at all. It can then be said that we are doing things to prolong this fate. Thereby changing our fate. In my opion fate works in a type of tree branch type way. You choose which branches to walk along and the choices between branches can be the difference between falling off the tree and continuing along another branch. If you believe in then One would say that certain branches can also lead you to another even greater tree, you just have to walk the right path. With considerations to this, it can be said that every event had a sequence of smaller, seemingly less significant events. For instance, One man has two possible fates contingent upon this one decision. This decision is between driving to work or taking the bus. And here are thepossiblities: Option 1) The man gets in his car and heads the normal shorter route his takes to work, two block s from his job a fire truck is rushing to a house fire on a road adjacent to the one he is on. He has his radio loud because this is normal behaviour and therefore does not hear the sirens, he enters the intersection just as the fire truck does and is killed on impact. Option 2) He waits at the bus stop, gets on the bus and crosses the very same intersection 30 mins after the fire truck had already passed due to the slower, more encompassing route. He makes it to work safe and sound.
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I dont really know where i stand on all of this. I know that I can speak for the guys with me on Sunday, we all take responsibility for our actions. I knew the way I rode on the streets was bad/dangerous/inconsiderate/probably a hundred other negative words. I know for a fact too Roger would have ridden like that with or without us there. It was def a wake up call, I just wish I didnt have to lose a friend to realize it.
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I'm with Candy on this one...we all know we will die at some point in our lives. It can therefore be said that we are destined for death, fated for death. We know there are various causes to these events: Heart attack, Stroke, Cancer, Aids, etc. We manage our behaviours in a way that acts to prevent certain things as listed before, eating habits for instance or exercise or using protection during or not having at all. It can then be said that we are doing things to prolong this fate. Thereby changing our fate. In my opion fate works in a type of tree branch type way. You choose which branches to walk along and the choices between branches can be the difference between falling off the tree and continuing along another branch. If you believe in then One would say that certain branches can also lead you to another even greater tree, you just have to walk the right path. With considerations to this, it can be said that every event had a sequence of smaller, seemingly less significant events. For instance, One man has two possible fates contingent upon this one decision. This decision is between driving to work or taking the bus. And here are thepossiblities: Option 1) The man gets in his car and heads the normal shorter route his takes to work, two block s from his job a fire truck is rushing to a house fire on a road adjacent to the one he is on. He has his radio loud because this is normal behaviour and therefore does not hear the sirens, he enters the intersection just as the fire truck does and is killed on impact. Option 2) He waits at the bus stop, gets on the bus and crosses the very same intersection 30 mins after the fire truck had already passed due to the slower, more encompassing route. He makes it to work safe and sound.
I've never put much thought into "fate" of any kind really, but I will say......


WOW!!....very interesting. How 'bout that beer Sean?
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Most retarded-est shyt I ever wrote right there...

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In my opion fate works in a type of tree branch type way.
More technically written:

In my opinion, fate works in a way that closely resembles the branches of a tree.

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In my opinion, fate works in a way that closely resembles the branches of a tree.

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Well, Sean, you are kinda, retarded.

haha jk bro
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I've never put much thought into "fate" of any kind really, but I will say......


WOW!!....very interesting. How 'bout that beer Sean?
I'm game...you shoulda came with us that night we went to Sam's Boat, hopefully we can do it again. Good conversation that night. Candy?
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Well, Sean, you are kinda, retarded.

haha jk bro
Nice write man
LMAO...dee dee deeeeee

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I'm game...you shoulda came with us that night we went to Sam's Boat, hopefully we can do it again. Good conversation that night. Candy?
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I'm game...you shoulda came with us that night we went to Sam's Boat, hopefully we can do it again. Good conversation that night. Candy?

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I'm with Candy on this one...we all know we will die at some point in our lives. It can therefore be said that we are destined for death, fated for death. We know there are various causes to these events: Heart attack, Stroke, Cancer, Aids, etc. We manage our behaviours in a way that acts to prevent certain things as listed before, eating habits for instance or exercise or using protection during or not having at all. It can then be said that we are doing things to prolong this fate. Thereby changing our fate. In my opion fate works in a type of tree branch type way. You choose which branches to walk along and the choices between branches can be the difference between falling off the tree and continuing along another branch. If you believe in then One would say that certain branches can also lead you to another even greater tree, you just have to walk the right path. With considerations to this, it can be said that every event had a sequence of smaller, seemingly less significant events. For instance, One man has two possible fates contingent upon this one decision. This decision is between driving to work or taking the bus. And here are thepossiblities: Option 1) The man gets in his car and heads the normal shorter route his takes to work, two block s from his job a fire truck is rushing to a house fire on a road adjacent to the one he is on. He has his radio loud because this is normal behaviour and therefore does not hear the sirens, he enters the intersection just as the fire truck does and is killed on impact. Option 2) He waits at the bus stop, gets on the bus and crosses the very same intersection 30 mins after the fire truck had already passed due to the slower, more encompassing route. He makes it to work safe and sound.
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