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Old 01-14-2014, 02:40 PM   #1
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450 cc comparison

So, has anyone see or heard about any differences, similarities, or comments on all 2014 450's?

I am looking at buying one new, but still debating between electric start, kick stand, head light of the KTM's versus none of that but great torque on the yamaha "F", etc.

I would be using this in real big dunes, deep heavy sand where power is most welcome. Most guys I know that had 250's, they sold them to get bigger engines.
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Old 01-14-2014, 02:43 PM   #2
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If it were me I would go for something that has an electric start and kickstand....the electric starts do require maintenance so just keep that in mind...


KTM FTW!!

What are these real big dunes you speak of? So that way I can avoid them at all costs!!! I hate sand...
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If it were me I would go for something that has an electric start and kickstand....the electric starts do require maintenance so just keep that in mind...


KTM FTW!!

What are these real big dunes you speak of? So that way I can avoid them at all costs!!! I hate sand in my vag...
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You have the
KLX450
WR450F/YZ450F
450exc
DRZ400
GasGas 450
Beta 450

Toss out the DRZ

The rest become a choice of how much $ to spend, and how many tools do you own.

I would go with the WR450F
Next would be the Beta
Then KTM
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WR450F with some mods will make YZF450 power and then you have the benefit of their rock solid low maintenance engine with loads of power, wide ratio transmission (ideal for dunes), kickstand and electric start. Plus, they just look sexy.
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You have the
KLX450
WR450F/YZ450F
450exc
DRZ400
GasGas 450
Beta 450

Toss out the DRZ

The rest become a choice of how much $ to spend, and how many tools do you own.

I would go with the WR450F
Next would be the Beta
Then KTM
Wondering why the Honda CRF450 is not on your list? Reason for it or just an oversight?

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Looking at your bike list and it seems you like a little more exotic bikes. If you like the WR450 motor but prefer a more exotic bike then the Gasgas 450 would be perfect for you. It is based on the Yamaha WR450 motor but has all the fancy farkles you would expect from a euro bike.
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Honda FTW... lol
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I rode a crf450 with I think a 511 big bore once, made my buddies tricked out ktm feel pretty slow after riding it.. A yz250/290 big bore isnt to shabby either as long as your cool with doing a top end every 40 hours or so.
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Sorry, sorry ... my bad for not giving you guys more info to base your answers/ideas off.

This is not US. Will be buying and using this in South America (Argentina) where due to local politics, imports are not allowed unless you export by same amount to keep the balance sheet in place.

So only things you can get are:

Yamaha YZ450F
KTM 430 EXC
Honda 450CFR-X or R
And I think you can get Kawa

... stocks on above are super limited. For example most dealers are still selling the 2012 brand new as the latest edition model.

The KTM 450 EXC 2014 costs $21k
The Yamaha costs $16k

Now, you all have a little more info.
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Old 01-15-2014, 03:34 PM   #13
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Take some of it back ... just called Honda Argentina and they have NOTHING to sell. No quads, no bikes, nothing. They are only opened reselling used stuff. Sad
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$21k for a KTM? bless America.
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Sorry, sorry ... my bad for not giving you guys more info to base your answers/ideas off.

This is not US. Will be buying and using this in South America (Argentina) where due to local politics, imports are not allowed unless you export by same amount to keep the balance sheet in place.

So only things you can get are:

Yamaha YZ450F
KTM 430 EXC
Honda 450CFR-X or R
And I think you can get Kawa

... stocks on above are super limited. For example most dealers are still selling the 2012 brand new as the latest edition model.

The KTM 450 EXC 2014 costs $21k
The Yamaha costs $16k

Now, you all have a little more info.
For far less than those prices you can likely have your 530 shipped to you & back home when your done.
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Sure, if that was allowed.

Argentina is becoming Cuba man. Nothing can come in, at least not without paying HUGE amounts of taxes and moneys under the table. By the time you are done importing something (you need a licence which I dont have by the way) you spent too much money and time

Downside: cost of buying local is outrageous

Upside: when you sell it used, you actually make some money or break even at least due to stock being so low, therefore it is just a matter of money being put on a bike (or else) for a while isntead of having it cash. You can always cash out getting same pesos if not more that initial investment.
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should be lots of almost new used bikes for sale there right about now. only used once.... except that one time was 24 /7 Dakar racing for 7 days straight. hahaha

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$50,000 for a 450....hummm NO

You aint gettin a Dakar racer for cheap....
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