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Old 04-19-2007, 09:28 PM   #1
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Radar question using it with a dark Wind screen

im not sure if im right. someone correct me if im wrong. Police use a radar that emits infrared light right? if this is true. would my dark smoke windscreen cause my radar not to work right?
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Old 04-19-2007, 09:33 PM   #2
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you're rite. it works.
so it does work with a Dark smoke screen? if soo im buying a escort 8500 pretty soon.

4 tickets in one week is not a good week.
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4 tickets in one week is not a good week.


radar's only do so much for you. maybe you need to change your driving habits.
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Old 04-19-2007, 09:50 PM   #5
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radar's only do so much for you. maybe you need to change your driving habits.

lol. i know a radar can only do so much.. i don't plan on speeding anymore. it would just be nice to know that a police car is up ahead or sitting on the side of the road.
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Old 04-19-2007, 10:19 PM   #6
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I might be completely wrong, since I ended up taking mine off but, unless the radar is actively being used, then most radar detectors won't pick them up, if a cop is just up ahead cruising, or sitting on the side of the road giving someone a ticket, or just sitting on his it will not pick it up.
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you are correct sir. that's why a radar can only do so much.
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Old 04-19-2007, 10:47 PM   #8
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you are correct sir. that's why a radar can only do so much.
BUT. what u are asking the radar detector to do is "see" when the cops radar hits that car half mile up the road.
If u are the lone person on the road for a mile or so then u are screwed but if there are other vehicles also then the radar works great. How ofter are u the sole person on the road? Also if the cop is standing outside his car with his gun and can hear u coming from a mile a way he may then hold off checking others to wait until u show up.
Also stay in the right lane over the "fast" lane when possible.
If a cop is sitting alongside the road, his radar signals him whatever he has it set at, he then looks in his mirror at whatever car happens to be in the "fast lane and will most likely go after him. I have had it happen myself wher i was doing about 80mph on bltway in the right lane and just as i passed a car that was in the "fast lane" maybe doing 65 tops as we go over a rise, a cop was on the left shoulder. i immidiatly slow and we both pass the cop at about the same time. The cop pulls out and i think i am busted but sure enough he pulls over the car. I KNOW that dude had to be if he was issued a ticket at over 80mph.
I have had my passport alert me of a cop with radar at over a mile away.
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Old 04-19-2007, 11:01 PM   #9
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agreed. radars to the rescue. i got my windscreen painted....and radar still works the same.
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agreed. radars to the rescue. i got my windscreen painted....and radar still works the same.
do you have a pic on how its mounted? and which one do you have?
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agreed. radars to the rescue. i got my windscreen painted....and radar still works the same.
beltronics v65, something like that. velcroed under the windscreen.
we both have them mounted like that, except i'm using an escort 7500. been using it for 5 or so years. has saved me many times.
like train460 said, you have to understand how cops use their radar guns and ride/drive accordingly.
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beltronics v65, something like that. velcroed under the windscreen.
we both have them mounted like that, except i'm using an escort 7500. been using it for 5 or so years. has saved me many times.
like train460 said, you have to understand how cops use their radar guns and ride/drive accordingly.
i understand how cops use their radar. i use to have one way back in the day like 5 years ago till someone stole it.
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Old 04-19-2007, 11:41 PM   #14
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Radar works using radio waves 24.15ghz for Ka band, IIRC. Doesn't matter what you're using for a windscreen, unless its made outta lead, it will work.

Most of HPD are using lasers now. Troopers, sheriffs, and constable still mainly use radar. Laser is easier and more dependable to work with. At about 500 ft, it has a 2 -3 ft beam width, vs 30-40 ft with radar. The laser jammers out now work, and are legal unlike radar jammers.

I tested a laser jammer on my friends car and I couldn't get a reading at all using laser. Tried about 10 different times. I could still get him on radar before he could react and slow down.

When I used to run radar, I never left the unit on all the time. Everyone with a detector knew that a cop is was around. I would wait until I visually estimated the speed, I'm good for about 3-4 mph, cut the radar on, clock for about 2 secs, check the actual radar speed against my estimated speed, cut the radar back off. That way its nothing more than a blip on your radar detector. That anti-pop stuff that they hype on detectors is only a marketing tool to sell radars, it can be defeated using the method I just described.

Bikes can be tricky to clock using radar. Sportbikes were pretty hard to clock in moderate to heavy traffic. Radar detectors return the speed of the vehicles that returns the greatest energy, not necessarily the fastest moving obect. Big, large vehicles usually return the most energy. Vehicles like metro busses, 18 wheelers, dump trucks, delivery vans all return pretty good amounts of energy. If you ride next to one of these objects, the radar most likely won't even pick you up because of the energy returned by the larger object.

Radar is old, old technology. Departments still use it because the new laser units are super expensive, and Radar still works fine but it isn't necessarily target specific. Most people don't realize that radars have a doppler audio output as well. We actually listen to the synthesized sound that represents the doppler signal being reflected off the vehicles. Using that with the speed readout you can determine who is accelerating, braking, or holding steady on the throttle.

The even newer laser units take a picture of your vehicle (hopefully w/ a frnt plate), and has the speed and range stamped on the picture. The pics are saved for court, which makes them almost impossible to fight.

Sorry for the longwinded response but I try to educate on some of the lessor known facts of traffic enforcement. But the easiest way to avoid tickets is to just slow down, or ride next to a huge truck.
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I tested a laser jammer on my friends car and I couldn't get a reading at all using laser. Tried about 10 different times. I could still get him on radar before he could react and slow down.
any specific brand? or do they all work the same.
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is there any truth to lazer guns having trouble in fog?

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i prefer to ride under their trailers next to the axle and in between their tires lol but i mean thats how i roll j/k yeah but seriously i commute to 105 to bush airport everyday (alot of cops along the way and i mean alot. conroe,sheanadoah,oakride,spring,troppers,sheriffs then finally HPD in one tripo there) i try to stay in the right lane and nehind some big trucks or even suvs behind their right tailight but pretty good distance behind them for room to react. but cops sit on the left side so even if theres nobody in the left lanes its goin be hard for him to radar me across the highway amd nehind a 18 wheeler or a suv. my theory is if i cant see him he definatly cant radar me accuratly or succesfully or see me due to the huge suv or 18 wheeler in front of me takin all the radarsness (word?) away from me. but thats just me talkin
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i'll be sure to ride next to big dump trucks from now on. but i know they'll still pull me over and guess my speed.
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its time to just pay of the good boys in blue hahahhaa
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yeah i know they're shiftey. but is it true you can ask to see the radar gun and your speed? idk
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