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Old 01-05-2014, 03:56 PM   #1
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Technique for staying straight in the air

MX noob here. What is the proper technique for staying straight in the air? I got really sideways mid air at Rio yesterday and I don't know what caused it. It was a smooth take off so there was nothing to buck the rear of the bike. I know being on the throttle when landing will straighten it out but how to you keep it from happening in the first place? Sometimes it gets a little sideways but I feel in control and am able to straighten it out and sometimes it feels like the bike has a mind of its own. But I don't know what I am or am not doing to cause this.
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Old 01-05-2014, 04:06 PM   #2
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you have issues staying straight around men too....I see a pattern
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but in all seriousness.....are you talking about the pitch of the front tire or the back tire coming around on you?
Im not sure I noticed that too much when Im jumpin yet....I hope not to experience that either
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but in all seriousness.....are you talking about the pitch of the front tire or the back tire coming around on you?
Im not sure I noticed that too much when Im jumpin yet....I hope not to experience that either
Rear tire coming around.
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Sounds like you're turning the front just before you hit air.
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Could it be to much throttle or High RPM in the air? The rear tire actin like a tail rotor of a heli? Or am I overthinkin it?
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Could it be to much throttle or High RPM in the air? The rear tire actin like a tail rotor of a heli? Or am I overthinkin it?
Could it be my arms are like ailerons?
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Could it be to much throttle or High RPM in the air? The rear tire actin like a tail rotor of a heli? Or am I overthinkin it?
Maybe my pegs are like rudder pedals and my is like an afterburner?
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Maybe my pegs are like rudder pedals and my is like an afterburner?
the peg half *could* be it, but it is in the lift off that is causing issues
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Maybe your rear wheel isn't aligned.
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Maybe your rear wheel isn't aligned.
you couldn't be so right.....well that was last time we went to Rio....one of his adjusters was about 3 inches off from the axle block:bang head:

brandon you might wanna check the alignment again
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Grip the bike between your knees
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Sometimes it will kick one way on its own. Turn the bars the other way, and gas it. The pros say you can pull it back with your body weight but I'm not good enough or in the air long enough for that. If you don't go off the face straight, you won't be straight in the air.
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Maybe I was getting lazy. I'll concentrate on this next time.
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Sometimes it will kick one way on its own. Turn the bars the other way, and gas it. The pros say you can pull it back with your body weight but I'm not good enough or in the air long enough for that. If you don't go off the face straight, you won't be straight in the air.
I'm confused. Do you mean turn the bars so the front wheel lands straight and gas it upon landing? Or are you saying steer in mid air and gas it to straighten it before landing?
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To an extent, turning the bike one way and gassing it will make it turn midair. If you watch a scrub, they purposely tuck the front and lay the bike over going up the face to dissipate the energy that would normally send them higher. To bring it back straight, they turn the bars the other way, put the body weight on the other side and gas it.

Rio day track doesn't really have any jumps big enough that you would have time to do that and save it if you were off bad enough, but ive seen it done over the table on the night track.
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Was searching for the world wide interwebz for information on this and found a gem. The reason I feel in control in the air and sometimes don't may be my body position. Apparently when my weight is in front of the pegs with my head forward upon takeoff I am leading the bike in the air. Weight directly over or behind the pegs leads to the bike pulling me. Which makes sense why I sometimes feel like I can manhandle it in the air and sometimes it feels like I am just trying to hang on to a meteor plummeting towards earth.
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